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    I have no issues at all, once a vid is running. Choosing a vid takes much longer these days though, because the goddam stupid fucking algorhythm serves up 95% slop these days. Already viewed vids, ones expressly blocked, “news” stories that are YEARS old, or those in weird foreign languages, make up most of the garbage I get offered…

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    Aha I’m not crazy! There was about a week where YouTube videos were so slow and we mainly use SmartTube on the shield TV, the fucked up part is I pay for YouTube premium, I just like the UI and options available on SmartTube better then the default app.

    It did seem to get better, so maybe they realized I fucking pay for this service.

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      Is it possible to post the same video both to youtube and peertube without trouble? I wonder if this is prohibited cause I think many creators would mirror their content to peertube if they could.

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    I’m finding I’m using youtube less and less that I can’t actually remember the last time I used it for anything. Youtube has so much crap now.

    Because of their monetisation scheme for content creators, it was profitable for creators to drag 15 mins of information out to one hour, and then to include shock faces as thumbs to get more clicks, and then to get more viewers just to watch a bit of the video as viewership dwindles into just mindlessly watching suggestions.

    I feel sorry for those creators who have gone balls deep with youtube content and who have no “plan b”.

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      I think that says more about the channels you watch and your viewing habits. I enjoy STEM and STEM related channels; I don’t experience the same as what you’ve described.

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    I watched videos on Newgrounds using dial-up

    They are going to have to slow ad blockers by a lot for me to consider it slow

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      My wife and I were discussing this. This isnt “slow” to us, its just a tiny bit inconvenient. We were used to the old AOL pictures taking a good minute or two to load.

      We would get rid of Youtube before we get ads.

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      Because I don’t watch random videos, I watch people I’m subscribed to and they don’t exist on other platforms. I would love to switch, really. The very fact I’m on Lemmy tells you that I’m open to doing that kind of thing.

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        If the people you subscribe to are not ones who monetization is important you may want to consider reaching out to them and asking if they’d consider cross posting to PeerTube or another YouTube alternative. They may appreciate not putting all their eggs in one basket and reaching new potential fans.

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      Because YouTube is where shit happens dude. Yeah sure theres peertube and others, but frankly, nobody that people care about are uploading to them. Not to mention they don’t offer the monetization opportunities for creators that YouTube does.

      Ad block and sponsor block and call it a day.

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        Exactly. I dont mind a little extra buffering. I mostly watch things in 720 or 1080, and I’ve barely noticed the change.

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    Make me wait 5 mins on a black screen and I’ll do that before watching an ad.

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    I’ve started bulk downloading videos with yt-dlp and watching them locally. No ads or throttling to deal with.

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      If Google really wants to, they can crack down on yt-dlp, and I assume that if enough people are using it, they’re likely to do such a crackdown. Like, this works for the moment, but…

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        Nah. How would you crack down a program that just play the videos in the background and then just capture the content while it’s played?

        Just queue up a bunch of vidoe you wanna watch, and let the program just essentially screen record it.

        Well if you say “DRM”? Well we could share it to a display that itself is hacked and record all the signals.

        Unless they are doing proctoring as if it were a test, there will always be some way to circumvent it.

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            I’m so used to the sponsorship thing that I just instinctively tap/click the right side of the screen a few times to skip it.

            (As for why I don’t use sponsorblock: I don’t block them because I wanna take a few seconds to take a peak into the sponsor segment to make sure they don’t have very evil sponsors like ahem “Betterhelp” (I don’t trust someone that still have that as a sponsor in 2025)

            Edit: Also, I’m pretry sure someone will build a locally run AI model that can detect the ads/buffering and cut it out. “AI” might not give you true information in terms of search results, but pattern recognition is like its main job, right?

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            Imagine adblock re-rencoding software that picks mp4s clean based on repeated content(ads). The user could select each ad as they happen, mark them as such and let it identify them from there. Imagine sharable or federated caches of these ad records between users.

            Someone who can code, please, imagine it.

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              What they should be imagining instead is a better video sharing platform. There are alternatives already…

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                Cause all you need is your imagination!

                And billions of dollars to build and run the site with servers worldwide. No biggie

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        Virtual desktop program that watches videos and uses sponsorblock and adblock after the fact to pick it clean and re-encode it.

        I’m that level of anal

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          I’m not really following video DRM, but my understanding is that Widevine won’t run in a VM with a virtualized video card like that.

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        It will happen eventually. All they need to do is start new/rotating keys on wildvine and put the ads at random times right in the stream, then disable fast forward if you use it to skip ads. It’ll be a UX hit, so it’ll need to be worth it to them.

        In the end, they can’t stop us from HDMI capturing and using comskip to detect / remove but there are a million ways to play tag between where we are now and that which don’t require people posting videos to pirate bay :)

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              strip out the HDCP

              Interesting, I had figured that was possible in principle but hadn’t kept up with what was actually around.

              But still, the HDCP stream is decompressed video, so if you want to save it, you’ll have to either put it through yet another layer or lossy compression, or burn a ridiculous amount of disk space compared to the compressed stream that Youtube sent to your computer.

              We’ll see how things go. Google in the past has made occasional modest gestures to get in the way of downloading, but they haven’t made serious effort to prevent it. Who knows whether that will last.

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              They aren’t fool proof, and relatively easy to detect from the source.

              Source: high end AV tech for like half a decade

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            I break HDCP right now. Those keys have been leaked for AGES. $10 amazon HDMI copy in between your videocard and the capture.

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          Right. At the end of the bullshit, the content still plays to completion if the user hits play. We can script and Ai and remove ads all day long after a program snags the feed.

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        My ip was blocked a LONG time ago by google for using yt-dlp. Works with VPN but nothing else. Fun times. I think I only pulled a couple of videos off for archival services. On my own channel non-the-less.

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          You might try again. I was blocked for a couple weeks after I pulled a bunch of videos from a channel using yt-dlp, and for a while YouTube required an account (which I will not get) from that IP. But a couple weeks later, things were working again.

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            Ok cool! I updated yt-dlp via pip, and it looks like its working again. No warnings or anything. Awesome.

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      This is the way.

      When YouTube wanted to throw me some entertainment and a couple ads, very conveniently, I was down for that.

      Now that it’s an all out technology knowledge battle - well, I’m quite good at that.

      So I spend the time I would have laughed at their ad instead working around their bullshit.

      I haven’t seen an ad in years, but I still enjoy the same content. 🤷‍♀️

      To me, it seems like they’re working really hard, just to fail to serve me ads.

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        I would but my issue with that is that SponsorBlock doesn’t work on downloaded videos.

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            I use SponsorBlock for more than just skipping sponsored segments. It’s also useful for skipping intros, “like and subscribe” messages, and other general annoyances in most YouTube videos. Once you get used to it, you can’t go without.

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      I’m new to yt-dlp. Care to share your flags? I’m a little confused on which ones I actually need.

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        I mean, you don’t need anything; it’ll work with no flags. I have these:

        $ cat ~/.config/yt-dlp/config
        --embed-subs
        --embed-metadata
        --embed-chapters
        --embed-thumbnail
        --sponsorblock-mark=all
        $
        

        That’ll just embed some useful metadata in the file.

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          Also if you just want the audio to listen to (I like to do this with TTRPGs) you can do:

          yt-dlp -x -f bestaudio

          Also works great in a pinch for getting sounds and music for FoundryVTT.

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            I’m pretty sure that it defaults to best quality.

            goes looking at man page

               By default, yt-dlp tries to download the best available quality if you don't  pass  any  options.   This  is  generally
               equivalent to using -f bestvideo*+bestaudio/best.  However, if multiple audiostreams is enabled (--audio-multistreams),
               the  default  format changes to -f bestvideo+bestaudio/best.  Similarly, if ffmpeg is unavailable, or if you use yt-dlp
               to stream to stdout (-o -), the default becomes -f best/bestvideo+bestaudio.
            

            So I think that it should normally pull down the best audio unless you get into some situation where YouTube doesn’t offer a format that simultaneously has the combination of highest audio quality with the highest video quality; if it has to do so to get the highest video quality then, it’ll sacrifice audio quality.

            EDIT: Hmm. I could have sworn that there was more text about prioritizing relative audio and video quality at one point in the man page, but I don’t see anything there now. Maybe it can just always get the best audio quality, regardless of video quality, can pull 'em entirely separately.

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          Note that subtitles doesn’t include automatic subtitles. For that you have to do --write-auto-subs in conjunction

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        I’m a filthy Windows user that’s too lazy to migrate my main PC to Fedora.

        > Path\to\yt-dlp.exe -P <target directory> <URL>
        

        Multiple URLs can be separated by spaces. Put any URLs with ampersands in quotes or remove the ampersand and following arguments.

        You can find a list of all the arguments on the yt-dlp github page

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      Me too. I’m up to 3TB locally. Had to do that slowly though. Hit some temp bans a few times.

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      I’ve been doing this with band love videos and storing them on a hard drive. One I love got taken down and almost lost a while back and it’s made me paranoid ha

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    Oh hey I ran into that issue, fixed it by blocking the element on ublock and spoofing my user agent

    Edit: I put more details under nameisnotimportant’s comment, I was about to head to bed so I didn’t really provide details LOL