• throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works
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    Do people really want devices that are more durable? If so, why aren’t they buying them?

    Because the compromise is either:

    1. Bad updates, and buggy software, possibly unpatched vulnerbilities. Usually only 1-2 years of security updates (Blackview, Ulephone, Dogee)

    Or

    1. Bad Specs. (Samsung Galaxy XCover)
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      It’s not a compromise, it’s a reflection of the fact that most people don’t care about these durable devices so they don’t sell well and thus they can’t be supported very well or for very long. This is just a reality of the market.

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        So there goes the feedback loop.

        Nobody wants them because of the downsides, manufacturers then interpret those data as “rugged devices are not popular”, repeat…

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          Samsung used to have rugged mainline Galaxy phones. Guess what? They didn’t sell well so they don’t make them anymore.

          Mass market doesn’t want this, is that simple. The people who want it are over represented online. It’s a similar case with people who want small phones, why do you think they don’t make them anymore? Because hardly anyone buys them.

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            I’d say like a $100-200 (USD) Premium, at most. Basically, if a phone is $500, I’d at most pay $700 for a ruggedized version of it with all the same specs, features, and updates. I don’t mind the thickness as long as its not too thick like a brick. Any more expensive and nah, that aint for me.

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              I think this highlight the problem with this approach. $500 MSRP would likely not be cost effective for a phone manufacturer to invest in the design, construction, inventory of replacement parts, and multi-year long support of the rugged and long lasting phone. An important part of the premise of the author is that the phone lasts a long time, and your stated desire for long software support.

              This is likely a money loser for a phone manufacturer from day one. My guess is that this phone would likely have to cost $2000 to $3000 for a chance to be economically viable. The biggest expenses are going to be on the human labor parts of a staff to provide the regular software updates, maintaining humans that run the manufacturing lines for the replacement parts, and the repair staff to effect the repairs over time for customers. Considering the only time the phone manufacturer gets money is from the initial sale of the phone, they have to price it high enough to cover many years of these support operations.

              At the higher, more realistic, phone sale price it likely drops the number of potential customers so low to not even pay for the initial design and tooling to be created.

              This is likely why no manufacturer makes this theoretical phone.