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Left Party MP Cansin Köktürk was thrown out of a German parliament plenary chamber on Wednesday for wearing a t-shirt with the word “Palestine” printed on it, a move deemed a political statement by the parliamentary leadership.
Bundestag President Julia Klöckner intervened during the session, reminding MPs that political messages on clothing are not permitted in the chamber.
While the Bundestag does not have a detailed dress code, its rules require MPs and visitors to dress “in keeping with the prestige” of the institution. Enforcement of this standard is left to the discretion of the session chair.
Considering Germany’s strict antisemitism laws and the fact that Palestine has repeatedly called for the extermination of all Jews, this can’t really be that surprising.
Sure, but in this case that has nothing to do with that. In the past a politician was removed for wearing a t-shirts that was protesting a train station. Political statements on clothing are just not allowed in general.
“Palestine” is a political statement? I thought it was a geographical region. I mean “Free Palestine” yes. But just the word “Palestine” on its own?
Yeah, for everyone that can put 2 and 2 together it is.
In the same way that protesting with a blank sheet of paper in Russia is politically dangerous and illegal.
It’s only political to the extent that it exposes German hypocrisy.
Nope, it’s just the dresscode being enforced as it always has been.
So, there is no actual rule that she actually broke, unless we interpret the word “Palestine” to be not in keeping with the prestige of the Budestag. Are other country names or geographical regions also not in keeping with the prestige of the Bundestag? Like, when I visit can I not wear a shirt that says “Greece” on it? Or that says “Quebec” or “Antarctica”? Or is this is a special rule for country names that butthurt Germany’s “staatsraison”?
The decision here is totally in line with how it was enforced in the past, unrelated to Palestine.
Come one, you know you’re just feigning igorance here.
You’re missing the point, I’m not feigning ignorance, I’m challenging the hypocrisy.
German politics have become so fucking toxic to pro-Palestinian advocacy that merely the mention of the word Palestine is considered a breach of decorum. The shirt did not say “Free Palestine”, a clearly political message, it merely said the name of the country. Do you not see that when the mere mention of Palestine is considered political you have crossed into extremely problematic territory? Do you not see that the symbolic erasure of the mere mention of Palestine as an entity that can be mentioned without controversy, is a kind of affirmation of the policy of erasure of an entire people, precisely at the moment when a genocide is happening? Do you not see why this is such an infuriating betrayal of what so many of us saw as a model democracy? I fucking love Germany, which is why it so fucking hurtful to see this.
“Greece”, during the Greek financial crisis, would’ve been a political statement. Today it’d likely be fine.
I can make shit up too, check it out: “giraffes are purple”
My bullshit at least is not enabling genocide.
https://www.adl.org/resources/article/hamas-its-own-words
Hamas is not Palestine and the ADL is a genocide enabling organization that harbours deep anti-Palestinian racism. Got any better arguments to support your bigoted writings?
Lmao, Jesus Christ. I can lead a horse to water, but I can’t make it drink.
Got it. You actually don’t have any better arguments to support your bigoted writings.
Yeah, I guess verbatim quotations from Palestinian leadership isn’t enough to establish what they think. Too bad I don’t have your standards of just applying feelings without regard for the facts; you’re wise not to let logic or human decency stand in the way of your antisemitism, you might accidentally develop some self awareness
You are showing how Hamas are antisemitic. You are then elevating Hamas to all of Palestine. That’s neither net logic or human decency, that’s bait-and-switch.
But you know, we can play this game. Are you are ready to accept statements of Israeli top officials (from the freaking President, to the Prime Minister and his Ministers, to MKs and further down) as Israeli policy to exterminate Palestinians? Or is nuance only allowed for Israel and never allowed for Palestinians? Or is it that if we allow equal amounts of nuance to both sides, then that is antisemitism?
So what, you’re saying that those statements are accurate, but you’re willing to ignore them because Israel feels the same way about the Muslim occupation of Palestine as Muslims feel about Jewish occupation of Palestine? If you defend the one while condemning the other, it’s hard to see how the distinction could be anything other than antisemitism.