• Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee
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    I’m not familiar with Mint and I only installed Fedora twice/on two baremetal PCs … but how much easier can you go compared to Debian?
    Is it like a cleaner UI or more preinstalled essentials?

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      Ничего не понял. Кого по УК посадили?

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        I said English UK but you’re free to try it with any language that doesn’t make Microsoft believe you’re from the US or Canada, but I bet a European country would be best considering the amount of laws they have to prevent abuse by corporations compared to the rest of the world…

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    Okay I’m a big supporter of Linux but this is misinformation.

    Windows 11 LTSC install was the easiest install I’ve ever done, even easier than mint (or as easy).

    The imagine I used even asked me the username when I was creating the bootable usb so I would save some time.

    It also let me opt out of data collection and the rest of the bloatware.

    Came with office and it was pre activated.

    Now, if only that’s what Microsoft offered their mainstream consumer…

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      The last Windows I installed was Windows 10. I was trying to install onto a SATA SSD, while keeping my pre-existing Linux installation on the M.2 SSD intact. This took me an unreasonably long time and lots of failed attempts, and in the end, the only way I could find to make it work was to first physically remove the M.2, then install Windows, then add the M.2 back again. Which sucked a lot, because M.2s are really not optimized for easy or frequent installation and deinstallation.

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      I have no idea what you’re talking about. I mean that in the sense that whatever you’ve used to install Windows, it must not be common knowledge or the default.

      If you need special knowledge or access, I would call that “difficulty”. So even though, after you had all your special knowledge or access, it was easy, acquiring those preconditions was hard.

      I.e. it was difficult to install Windows overall.

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        Not common knowledge to use Rufus?

        What else do you use to create bootable flash drives?

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        You’re in the Linux memes sub. Linux users are the ultimate example of special knowledge PC users…

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          Yes but the context of the post is overall difficulty. Of course if you’re an expert in something, related things to that specialty will be easy for you. But we’re talking about how hard something is for non-experts.

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      that windows install isn’t the procedure m$ tells you to use though. the correct comparison to that IMO would be using one of the 4 or 5 easy arch installers.

      that said I’d still use bazzite. now a real janky ass install would be fedora core os on an sbc, using emmc for boot but nvme for root.

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        If you want debloated Windows, you already aren’t using the procedure Microsoft wants you to use. So why would you even care?

        If you follow Microsoft’s procedure, it takes less than 5 minutes to get a working setup.

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    you guys have to read the instructions for Arch?

    I mean I touch on them sometimes to see what has been replaced or changed because linux moves pretty fast but the steps are not complicated or hard to remember.

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    brother, 99% of users will never even consider installing their own os. the issue isn’t that Linux is hard to install, the issue is that pretty much anyone brave enough to even mess with their operating system is either already on Linux, a boomer, or trapped by professional software that isn’t available on Linux (that’s me, a videographer)

    the only way Linux is breaking out of extreme obscurity is if it starts coming pre-installed on commercially available and desirable hardware. the steam deck did more for Linux in a single product launch than the entire decade of combined efforts before that. before the deck i would have said it was simply never going to happen, but who knows. maybe it’ll be up to eccentric billionaires that never went public with their companies to push the Linux future we all want.

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    This is 100% true, but the chart inverts when you have a problem you’re trying to fix.

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    I want to buy a Framework laptop soon. I have the option to choose which Linux distro is best for me and load that on.

    Any suggestions?

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      Transitioning from Windows to Linux Mint was effortless for me, everything worked out of the box and i haven’t typed a line of code yet. All i’ve had to to do is install Diodon to get the clipboard history feature.

      However all i’ve done with it is internet and office work, basic stuff. No gaming, no video editing, no 3D animation or any such. I think if you have a mature and complicated creative workflow it’s totally possible that you’ll struggle to move to Linux

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      Just install Windows 11

      spoiler

      This is a spoof on all the “Just install Linux” answers that make no sense.

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    Um… My grandma installed Windows 11 on her computer and then ran a simple script I gave her after. You guys are delusional.

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    Unless you install Linux mint with multiple displays. Holy 1 sec flickering sideways displays Batman. I don’t remember what I did exactly to fix but probably single display until drivers are all installed.

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      Omg please tell me when you do, I’m running Mint on my laptop but want to migrate my desktop over soon which has multiple displays

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        I’m pretty sure that was the fix. Start the installation with a normal single monitor. Once the OS is installed, run update manager to download and install updates. This would include GPU drivers. My second monitor is in portrait mode which I think was the culprit.

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    So by linux, you mean not every open OS? Can we add freebsd? Not the easiest but lots of users willing to help on a forum post.

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    Where’s Arch if you don’t RTFM? (I mean we’ve got 2 windows install modes there… only fair)

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    Windows 11 without a Microsoft-Account = terminal required. Linux Mint = terminal not required.