• jballs@sh.itjust.works
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    4 days ago

    I was an active user of pornhub when I was 14 years old

    I was a teenager before the modern internet, so at 14 I got my porn from BBSes and friends sharing floppy disks. There was plenty of awful/illegal shit on BBSes. But they weren’t regulated, so no one did anything about it.

    You cannot ban teenagers from accessing porn. Full stop.

    You can ban teenagers from using safe sites that follow the rules. That will force teenagers off responsible sites like PornHub and move them to shady sites that don’t follow rules and have shit like child pornography.

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      This and to add to this:

      They know this already. This is not a new subject, this has been going on for decades and every time it ends the same and it keeps coming back because they only need to win once. Once porn becomes illegal, good luck making it back legal again

      And that depends on what asshole you’re dealing with, the religious virtua signalling asshole or the “must monitor and control all citizens always” type asshole.

      The latter does the same shit, just for slightly different reasons. assholes sometimes have similar goals and all.

      Either way, it’s NEVER about actually protecting the children because fuck children, no politician has ever actually cared for a child (far and few exceptions excluded)

      Basically, if a politician talks about protecting children, they’re lying, period.

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        True. Damn.

        Also agreed, it is insanely hard to legalize stuff after it was made illegal for stupid emptionalized reasons. Various drugs, gay marriage, equal rights, abolition of borders etc.

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      4 days ago

      I grew up in the 1970’s and 80’s. Even then porn wasn’t hard to find.

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        Exactly. There’s a reason prostitution is called “the world’s oldest profession”. People have biological needs. Banning kids from using legitimate porn sites isn’t going to undo millions of years of evolution.

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          There’s a reason prostitution is called “the world’s oldest profession”.

          Yes, it’s because it’s a lazy, overused sentence that people like to quote without thinking. There’s no solid ground to claim that prostitution is the world’s oldest profession.

          People have biological needs.

          Those “biological needs” aren’t porn. You can masturbate without porn. You can fantasize without porn. You can have sex without porn. And so on.

          I’m not saying that this is a good measure, but “teenagers are interested in sex” ⇒ “we shouldn’t restrict what sexual media teenagers have access to” isn’t a very sound argument.

          legitimate porn sites

          “Legitimate” porn sites are all full of things I really wish I hadn’t seen as a middle schooler who was barely starting to get curious about sex. Or even as a high schooler who was decidedly interested in sex, actually.

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      That will force teenagers off responsible sites like PornHub and move them to shady sites that don’t follow rules and have shit like child pornography.

      Or to places like 4chan and Xitter, sites that host actual nazi shit in addition to porn. I was ideologically groomed by the far-right, and nazi propaganda is worse than porn IMHO to developing minds. I barely managed to escape.