• 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 month ago

    Christmas is no longer a holiday that honors the Christian god, it’s a holiday that honors the god of capitalism, money.

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      1 month ago

      I just use it to have a merry time with my family. Corporations try to co-opt everything; Christmas is no different. Is Pride about honoring greed and capitalism just because companies make everything rainbow? No, and neither is Christmas even though they try their best with that too. The only difference is buying gifts, but Christmas is about more than that, and homemade gifts are always an option.

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      1 month ago

      Cool, so it’s still worth eschewing /s

      I would like to note though that xmas is a very sore time of year for a lot of people (mostly queer, but others too) who do not have a good relationship with their family

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    It’s true that Christians have killed more people and commited more genocides, and are obsessed with putting their religion in everything… I think I’m on the side of this guy tbh

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      Love the fact that this spawned new issues complaining about the debugger icon promoting violence against insects.

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        What, the gear or the snowflake? I mean I know they are trolling but how do they make a connection to insects with that? That insects die in winter from cold temperatures?

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          I meant the debugger button, not the settings button. In the issue it showed up as an bug with a line going through it, as if saying “no insects allowed”.

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      Wait, did I read that correctly and they replaced the hat with a snowflake?? Hahahaha

      And yes, people often forget that generally offense is taken. When it’s intentionally given, it’s pretty clear.

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      Jesus Christ what is wrong with people… Microsoft giving in to a clear troll, surprised they didn’t just lock and ignore that shit and move on.

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        Jesus Christ is not my Lord and saviour. I demand you delete this post immediately and apologise. This is as insulting to me as pineapple on a pizza

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          Pineapples are an affront to my deity since they are neither pine nor apples. Please delete your account immediately

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      not supporting the complainer but it is kinda scary how much control western culture has over tech…

      there are so many holidays over the world. why christmas but not, say, Songkran or Chinese New Year?

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      Nice. Honestly, pretty well corralled, I would say.

      Incidentally, I’m amused that one of the more popular responses includes the classic phrase

      “Why can’t we all just get along”

      Which I tend to notice after having had it explained well to me once by someone with more empathy than my own.

      I won’t belabor it, but they pointed out to me that being tempted to say “Why can’t we all just get along” is usually a sign that we haven’t actually listened effectively.

      So now when I hear or read “Why can’t we all just get along”, I see that [X] and hear the buzz from “Family Feud”, and hear one of the Family Feud host kindly say “No points. Let’s try again.”

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    The article they share in the issue to explain why Christmas is so offensive is absolutely wild. To quote:

    Imagine that between 1933-45, the Nazi regime celebrated Adolf Hitler’s birthday – April 20 – as a holiday. Imagine that they named the day, “Hitlerday,” and observed the day with feasting, drunkenness, gift-giving, and various pagan practices.

    https://www.sefaria.org/sheets/51928?lang=bi

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        The “real meaning” of Christmas was getting the pagans on board with Christianity, don’t let anyone lie to you otherwise lol.

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          Yep the birth of Christ just coincidentally coincides with the end of Brumalia, which of course noone noticed when the emperor suddenly insisted everyone become Christian and had the bible written by committee. And it’s of course a coincidence that that was (back in the day) exactly the winter solstice. And it’s also just a coincidence that Jesus’ life story has quite some parallels to that of earlier sun gods from the general area.

          Most current Christmas traditions are more Germanic in nature, though, e.g. the Christmas tree. While in the current form a quite recent invention, decorating the house with evergreen stuff was common through the ages – branches, wreaths, not whole-ass trees. The needles btw are fine smudging material don’t just sweep them away.

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              Sol Invictus, in particular it’s also where the halo in depictions comes from… which isn’t really “other sun gods”, it’s in particular the Roman sun god. Misremembered the resurrection part, that’s Osiris who isn’t a sun god and the Horus parallels have been shown to be bunk, aside from getting nursed by Mary depictions being inspired by Horus getting nursed by Isis.

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                I read something about them (mainly in Wikipedia), and I see some parallels in artistic style or symbolism, but I don’t see a substantial parallel in their stories, although I didn’t find much about the story of Sol Invictus. I don’t see that someone was nursed as a significant parallel because almost every human was nursed.

                I focused on parallels in their stories because I don’t see parallels in the style of art depicting them as problematic to Christianity. But most of your previous comment was about artistic depictions, so, if you think that they are problematic, please, explain that more in details.

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          I read pagers for a sec and was confused… then again, god is the biggest mass murderer of all time.

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    Wow I didn’t expect so many religious people on Lemmy. Fuck christmas and every religious holiday. No special treatment for pale skins or anybody else. People are so indoctrinated into these rituals that they think it’s “normal”. Keep that bullshit out of my code please.

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      You don’t have to be religious to think a fat dude in some red clothes that magically travels around the world giving out presents to good children isn’t a fun yearly tradition. Frankly it’s kind of an overdramatic reaction to a small red hat overlaid onto an icon. Should configuration be provided to disable the functionally? Sure I don’t care, hell have it disabled by default I don’t mind but it’s stupid to make a huge stink about something so minor.

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    It’s always baffling how people can define something as unacceptable. Says who? You? Who are you to just make that decision so unilaterally?

    You can have your opinion, but it’s just that.