To a slightly lesser extent, that’s also true of Windows - severe malfunctions are less likely to happen, but when they do happen, fixing them is almost always an absolute clusterfuck, and when it isn’t, it’s downright impossible.
Have you had severe fuckups yearly with Windows, or Linux?
I’ve had bi-yearly severe fuckups with Windows and have yearly (probably more) severe fuckups with Arch;
the fix to the latter is a thumb drive away, the fix to the former is an ancient ritual which the FBI is still investigating me for.
Windows had the issues. Bsod, programs not working properly, games crashing, driver issues constantly, old games not working.
All gone with linux. Only reinstall I had was first month of having Linux i changed my desktop environment and riced it to hell. It just had bad performance and bugs.
If fedora update gets too far, just restart during restart and select earlier version to boot to.
Insane how good linux is as an os.
At least Linux usually has some useful error messages. On Windows, you get a fucking “Error Code 0x0000000f” and looking it up usually leads to some confidently incompetent layperson telling the OP to make sure their drivers are updated, or someone who managed to trick Microsoft into giving them a title of “assistant” suggesting Windows Diagnostics like that’s ever done anything useful, and at that point I just wanted to fucking die.
I’ll take a fucked-up xorg.conf over that clown show.
I had a BSoD on Windows that googling said “could be hardware or software related”. Thanks, I guess. Nothing in the logs even suggested anything happened except the several hours gap between other useless logs.
Tons of airports and train systems run either Windows 3.0 or Windows XP if they are recent.
They don’t want to update because they have already encountered every problem that could arise ever. Which they know how to fix in mere minutes.
And upgrading anything would mean the entire business can’t function during it. Afterwards you also have tons of new problems that could take days to fix since they don’t have the knowledge yet. Which could endanger lives.
I’ve been running the same heavily customized Windows box for half a decade now. Like “tore critical system components I don’t need out from the install media” level of customized. A good chunk of the “modify windows for privacy” tools shit the bed because parts of what they want to flip switches on for better privacy simply aren’t there on my install.
No issues with updates, nothing bricked or fucked up even with me definitively using it not as intended.
The more I progress in my tech career (roughly a decade in now) the more blatant it becomes that the overwhelming majority of issues people have with computers (especially in the modern era) are self inflicted. This is common across all OSes and Distros.
I agree that its common across all distros. I disagree on self inflicted. Its as if you didnt bother to teach tour kid to ride a bike and laugh at them for falling.
We’re a massively diseducated population by now. Friends of mine complain when they have to use a file system instead of buttons to open files and are shocked that making an app instead is expensive.
Unfortunately most people are utter slaves of convenience, they’d gladly suffer 30 seconds of unskippable ads every time they open the start menu rather than re-learn how a different operating system works - doing the latter has a (potentially) massive ROI, but it is quite a big step, and that’s what gets them
Just to be clear: while I’ve seen ads in one form or another in every (non-LTSC) installation of Windows 10 and 11 I’ve ever made, I’m not claiming that Windows 11 actually shows unskippable ads (in video format) when using the start menu yet, that was a hyperbole.
To a slightly lesser extent, that’s also true of Windows - severe malfunctions are less likely to happen, but when they do happen, fixing them is almost always an absolute clusterfuck, and when it isn’t, it’s downright impossible.
Nah i had severe fuckups yearly.
Linux has been for me what the biggest windows corporate bootlicker claims windows is.
Have you had severe fuckups yearly with Windows, or Linux?
I’ve had bi-yearly severe fuckups with Windows and have yearly (probably more) severe fuckups with Arch;
the fix to the latter is a thumb drive away, the fix to the former is an ancient ritual which the FBI is still investigating me for.
Windows had the issues. Bsod, programs not working properly, games crashing, driver issues constantly, old games not working.
All gone with linux. Only reinstall I had was first month of having Linux i changed my desktop environment and riced it to hell. It just had bad performance and bugs.
If fedora update gets too far, just restart during restart and select earlier version to boot to. Insane how good linux is as an os.
At least Linux usually has some useful error messages. On Windows, you get a fucking “Error Code
0x0000000f” and looking it up usually leads to some confidently incompetent layperson telling the OP to make sure their drivers are updated, or someone who managed to trick Microsoft into giving them a title of “assistant” suggesting Windows Diagnostics like that’s ever done anything useful, and at that point I just wanted to fucking die.I’ll take a fucked-up xorg.conf over that clown show.
I had a BSoD on Windows that googling said “could be hardware or software related”. Thanks, I guess. Nothing in the logs even suggested anything happened except the several hours gap between other useless logs.
To be fair a lot of the time a blue screen is shitty drivers…
Blue screens are usually a defense against shitty code fucking over the hardware.
It halts the entire computer to prevent the hardware from being damaged.
I don’t know what Linux does to prevent that, but I hope it has something similar.
The Linux equivalent is a kernel panic
You mean as long as you pay windows tax by buying a new computer regularly and dont ask for privacy, free software, etc. :)
I just retired a 2012 Windows 7 machine that had never received any patches/updates.
Never crashed, never had issues.
I’ve run Windows boxes even longer than that.
Since Win2k, stability improved drastically. XP was another major shift.
Linux is like running NT4 by comparison (and NT4 was damn stable).
Ah riiiight! Which version of windows runs trains and airplanes again? Which version of windows runs on modern cars?
Tons of airports and train systems run either Windows 3.0 or Windows XP if they are recent.
They don’t want to update because they have already encountered every problem that could arise ever. Which they know how to fix in mere minutes.
And upgrading anything would mean the entire business can’t function during it. Afterwards you also have tons of new problems that could take days to fix since they don’t have the knowledge yet. Which could endanger lives.
… modern cars run Windows? D:
Exactly my point. Every device on the planet runs linux, except a couple desktop pcs.
Not modern anymore, but early Ford Sync was technically Windows…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Embedded_Automotive
I will remember this, and I hate you
I’ve been running the same heavily customized Windows box for half a decade now. Like “tore critical system components I don’t need out from the install media” level of customized. A good chunk of the “modify windows for privacy” tools shit the bed because parts of what they want to flip switches on for better privacy simply aren’t there on my install.
No issues with updates, nothing bricked or fucked up even with me definitively using it not as intended.
The more I progress in my tech career (roughly a decade in now) the more blatant it becomes that the overwhelming majority of issues people have with computers (especially in the modern era) are self inflicted. This is common across all OSes and Distros.
I agree that its common across all distros. I disagree on self inflicted. Its as if you didnt bother to teach tour kid to ride a bike and laugh at them for falling.
We’re a massively diseducated population by now. Friends of mine complain when they have to use a file system instead of buttons to open files and are shocked that making an app instead is expensive.
Unfortunately most people are utter slaves of convenience, they’d gladly suffer 30 seconds of unskippable ads every time they open the start menu rather than re-learn how a different operating system works - doing the latter has a (potentially) massive ROI, but it is quite a big step, and that’s what gets them
Its systemic. You cant fault them for it because it is the majority. That means that on average it is not possible and we need to address this.
I’ve never seen an ad in Windows itself. Not sure how people are getting that.
Just to be clear: while I’ve seen ads in one form or another in every (non-LTSC) installation of Windows 10 and 11 I’ve ever made, I’m not claiming that Windows 11 actually shows unskippable ads (in video format) when using the start menu
yet, that was a hyperbole.