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It’s worse if you have ever worked in food service. “App” is short for “appetizer”.
::cries in very specific form of confusion::
In my workplace they use robot for everything
I hate that this meme never explains what application meant ‘back then’
I get that it’s a problem now, but if it had a clear enough definition back then, maybe this couldn’t have occurred the way it did?I always understood “application” like a gadget in the software world that just resolved one specific problem, and had that own definition till got distorted
This is nonsense.
The other day I realized they did that because its APPle. I have no evidence but I’m sticking with it
I think I heard “applet” being mentioned for embedded java or something in the early 2000s. I don’t know if that’s connected.
Apple didn’t invent the word “app,” but I do think they pushed it because it was adjacent to the company’s name.
I thought applet came first. Then “web apps” - but i think that’s a windows perspective.
This claims they came from NEXT which apple bought in the 90s. https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/when-did-programs-become-apps.136416/
The thread also refers to bitmap image files as bumps which I’d still do if I ever saw a bump again. So the thread is legitimate.
I’ve been coding since the '80s. I’ve never once heard anyone refer to a bitmap as a “bump”.
The name of the company is all you need as evidence.
package = app
Source code = app
Function = app
library = app
object code = app
machine code = app
binary = app
linker = app
bits = app
data = app
state = app
stack = app
heap = app
variables = app
memory allocator = app
memory = app
transistors = app
silicion = app
wires = app
pcb = app
electrons = app
leptons = app
I felt like I was alone in being frustrated at this trend. However I found a bit of relief to discover, through messing around in a Win98 virtual machine, that they were occasionally using the term “app” back then as well. Of course it wasn’t as ubiquitous as it is now, but whatever.
Also I thought I’d never see the Xbox kid meme again. What an unexpected throwback!
See also the client camera movement guide:
Client cameras love everyone!
Interesting.
The word ‘pan’, came to me from using 3D CAD software and I considered the Jib and Truck actions as ‘pan’ and the original Pan would be camera rotation, which might be ‘turn’ (didn’t use it as much so don’t remember) which was less favourable than using ‘orbit’.
Good to know the word origin.Oh and btw, Dolly would not be zoom, but ‘walk’.
A Pan-o-rama
This is ridiculous. There’s no way a client calls a dolly a “pan”.
That’s obviously zooming.
I’ll have one zoom sideways to the left, please!
I met a guy who would say “pan forward” and “pan it in an angle”.
Everything is a file
What about a process? File gone wild?
I’d call that a file loaded to memory
Most files are loaded to memory in order to make any kind of use out of them. I.e. read/write operations.
That’s true! I supposed it would be more precise to say that all processes are files loaded to memory, but not all files loaded to memory are processes. Sort of like the whole arachnids / spiders situation.
Why not? Represented in /proc? exec() and fam? Read and write to it?
I mean, with virtualization that’s pretty much true
What about a folder?
If you can open it in Vim, it’s a file.
You can open me in Vim, Greg. Am I a file?
Pregonte file
Is that how babby formed
how to mkdir
On the flipside, “Bot” is the backend for almost everything that I’ve dealt with recently.
“We need the data moved from X to Y, can someone make a bot for that?”
Internal suffering
“… Yes. We can setup an API between X and Y.”
“Great! We also want a bot to generate daily reports from Y”
Suffering intensifies
“… Ok.”
I don’t even try to fight it anymore.
Um excuse me the preferred term is “AI agent” if you want outside investment
I had a (non-technical) manager come to me one day and say he wanted us to start using this hot new technology he had just read about called an API. This was in 2010. He showed me the article, which somehow never even attempted to explain what an API actually was. I just laughed and said I would make it an action item.
APIs have been around since like the 90s, right?
The term dates to 1974 (1968 if you accept “Application Program Interface”). The concept is decades older than that. My boss was just a fucking moron.
You folks still say bot? I my company, we say AI.
In similar cases I’ve passive-aggressively intentionally misunderstood and/or acted confused. E.g. “Yes, we can set ut up an API between X and Y, but what exactly do you want the bot to do?” Then let them elaborate until it’s clear they’re not asking for a bot.
Who has ever called a batch file an app
My end users
Powershell is a fortnite expansion right?
What I hate even more, is that the morons who can’t read more than two syllables decided to shorten “application” to “app”, but now I only ever hear people reading that as “ay pee pee”! What was the fucking point?
Chinese phonology doesn’t allow for the pronunciation of “app”, for example. I see a lot of Chinese people spelling it as “APP”, and pronouncing it accordingly. It’s kinda funny to me, since the Mandarin word “yingyong” is only two syllables. “APP” just seems more cumbersome by all account, yet it has become inexplicably popular.
Yingyong sounds cool. It’s got yoyo vibes
It literally means “to apply”, funnily.
But of course the majority of Chinese people are not English speakers, so they see “app” but can’t know it’s the same meaning.Ping pong
This, 100% It’s like how people started saying “PC” because personal computer was too long for them, but now I exclusively hear people taking up to a minute on each letter! (peeeeeeee-seeeeeeee)
I mean, I’m pretty sure this is extremely widespread in China, so I’d say it’s more cultural than anything else. In fact, since there are so many Chinese, that probably means more people call it A.P.P. than app. But I honestly have no clue, and it doesn’t matter to me either way. Words change. It’s nothing to get bent out of shape about.
I’ve literally never heard anyone call it A.P.P. (and I mean that literally literally, not figuratively literally)
Is this a specific cultural thing? A generational thing? Geography based slang? Why would anyone do this.
It’s an idiot thing is what it is
I might be biased from speaking with so many Chinese people. Who I can forgive not knowing the origin of the abbreviation. Still pisses me off to no end D:<
I miss when game had content patches instead of dlc
$ sudo appt-get install app
chmod +x myApp.appImage
I fought hard against that for years. I still only use ‘app’ for phone programs, but I stopped correcting people every time they used the term for anything else. It isn’t technically wrong, but it grates on my nerves for some reason.
Windows is the first thing I can think of that used the word “application” in that way, I think even back before Windows could be considered an OS (and had a dependency on MS-DOS). Back then, the Windows API referred to the Application Programming Interface.
Here’s a Windows 3.1 programming guide from 1992 that freely refers to programs as applications:
Common dialog boxes make it easier for you to develop applications for the Microsoft Windows operating system. A common dialog box is a dialog box that an application displays by calling a single function rather than by creating a dialog box procedure and a resource file containing a dialog box template.
I don’t have a single problem with the word “application”
to develop applications for the Microsoft Windows operating system.
Could they have meat “uses for the MS…”?
If someone told me to use the fdisk app I’d be confused.
Use the ls app.
Then use the cd app.
Ugh I don’t know why but this was the one that got me. Just no.
Then use the cd app.
❯ which cd cd: shell built-in commandNot even technically correct, unless…
When I press ‘Reply’, I am using the Reply app
Language evolves. Why is a computer program not an “app(lication)” exactly?
A lot of times, the literal definition varies from what people think of when they hear a thing. We call a lot of similar things words that don’t fully make sense but since other people will know what it means, it’s useful. When everything is an app, piles of specifics are glossed over. That probably doesn’t matter when talking to a non-developer, but sometimes it might. Those of us in software like the specificity because it tells us many things we might otherwise have to ask several questions to learn about. So yeah, sometimes it matters, other times it won’t.
It isn’t technically wrong
Yeah, I thought I made that clear. I just don’t like it.
Everyone that goes " thats fire yo!" I spritz with a spraybottle.
As is your right and duty.
Oh, it is. It is… Sigh.
