I didn’t have to ask, necessarily. I knew a lot of the differences. I’m a Photoshop expert. I’ve been using it regularly since version 2.0.3. Countless thousands of hours using Photoshop. I have a degree in computer art. I’ve been doing digital photographer since the 90’s.
I was asking you what you thought GIMP was missing.
I think GIMP is adding CMYK support soon. Not something I care about, personally. Digital printing is all RGB these days anyway.
Plug-in support? GIMP has amazing plugin support! They had Mathmap before Adobe even dreamed of adding… oh, whatever it is they called their version of it. Pixel Bender. That was it.
Hell, you can write your own plug-ins in Python. They don’t need to be compiled or anything. I’ve written a few basic workflow ones myself. Mostly to fix the fact that GIMP doesn’t have Actions. You have access to the entirety of GIMP through Python, Scheme, C, and at least one other language. (I realize Photoshop has scripting, too. I’m just saying that GIMP is not lacking in plug-in support.)
Also, professional what? Photographer? Photo retoucher? Digital painter? Prepress tech? Graphic designer? Meme producer?
There are a lot of professionals that could do just as well in GIMP. I actually prefer it for photo retouching these days. The Resynthesize plugin is often better than Adobe’s content-aware fill (Ignoring AI, which you can do with a Stable Diffusion plugin, if you’d like). The healing brush is better than using the Spot Healing tool. Curves is identical. The clone tool is identical.
I could list a bunch of things that are simply better in GIMP. Like using the middle mouse button for dragging the canvas. People have been demanding that from Adobe for years and have been ignored. I prefer the always-on, one-click “transform selection” for GIMP’s selection tool verses having to use the “Transform Selection” command in Photoshop. I also really like the option where the brush stays the same size (on the screen) while zooming in. Basically, the brush scales down when you zoom in. Easy to toggle on and off. The Free Select tool in GIMP is better than the Lasso in Photoshop. There are more things I could point out.
The only thing that Photoshop is definitely better than GIMP at doing is CMYK and prepress work. And I do miss Actions despite having full control with Python. There is a solid batch processing plug-in for GIMP, though.
So what do you really do in Photoshop that GIMP can’t do? Would you even know? Hell, you thought GIMP doesn’t have plug-in support.
Saying shit like, “it takes you about 15 seconds using each program to understand the difference and to see the massive gulf between them” is unhelpful and simply not true. It takes weeks in each program to learn how to do things the way that program wants you to do them. One person not familiar with one of the two programs cannot make that judgment in 15 seconds. That’s nonsense.
Deception? I asked what you thought GIMP was missing and then you went and made huge assumptions about me. That’s on you. I only replied the way I did because of what you said. Next time maybe just answer a question instead of insulting someone for even asking. Or don’t answer it. That’s fine, too.
Yeah, I tried Gimp. Hated it. One of the biggest issues with Gimp, besides features, is the workflow. If you are trying to get Photoshop users to move over, then it needs to at least have a similar workflow. It’s completely different though. You are learning an entirely new tool with new shortcuts. No one has time for this.
Look at vscode or neovim. Most devs use one of 5 editors these days. Vscode and neovim being the most popular. If you want to compete with these tools, they need to have a similar workflow and feel to what people are used to. Otherwise, no one will use it.
I’ll use photopea over gimp any day for this reason.
There is photoGIMP which redesigns the UI to be more like Photoshop. There’s also Photoshop keyboard shortcut lists out there that you can change GIMP to.
It’s not perfect, but it defiantly helps for a lot of people.
For whatever reason, GIMP really wants to try and not be Photoshop when that’s literally the thing it’s competing against.
Yeh. No fault of course in of itself tho. Gimp developers have tried to make something, but it just hasn’t materialised in the same way as Blender. Kudos for trying.
Didn’t stop me from switching to Linux for my entire workflow. Industry standard is just a phrase. It doesn’t truly mean anything when viable and real alternatives exist.
I don’t think that’s true, at least for companies.
Industry standard or even company standard means you need a very critical reason to switch because doing so is very costly in ways that don’t really affect an individual or a small team.
This is why large corps often still use decades old software that may be terrible by that point, but impossible to move away from.
This is why large corps often still use decades old software that may be terrible by that point, but impossible to move away from.
And sometimes those large corps slowly die off because of those decisions. Technology moves so fast that you can’t afford to be a dinosaur using 20 year old software.
With GIMP 3 and DaVinci Resolve 20 out there, this seems like a very bad idea.
Something something slips through your fingers.
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Name a few features in Photoshop that cant be done in GIMP?
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I didn’t have to ask, necessarily. I knew a lot of the differences. I’m a Photoshop expert. I’ve been using it regularly since version 2.0.3. Countless thousands of hours using Photoshop. I have a degree in computer art. I’ve been doing digital photographer since the 90’s.
I was asking you what you thought GIMP was missing.
I think GIMP is adding CMYK support soon. Not something I care about, personally. Digital printing is all RGB these days anyway.
Plug-in support? GIMP has amazing plugin support! They had Mathmap before Adobe even dreamed of adding… oh, whatever it is they called their version of it. Pixel Bender. That was it.
Hell, you can write your own plug-ins in Python. They don’t need to be compiled or anything. I’ve written a few basic workflow ones myself. Mostly to fix the fact that GIMP doesn’t have Actions. You have access to the entirety of GIMP through Python, Scheme, C, and at least one other language. (I realize Photoshop has scripting, too. I’m just saying that GIMP is not lacking in plug-in support.)
Also, professional what? Photographer? Photo retoucher? Digital painter? Prepress tech? Graphic designer? Meme producer?
There are a lot of professionals that could do just as well in GIMP. I actually prefer it for photo retouching these days. The Resynthesize plugin is often better than Adobe’s content-aware fill (Ignoring AI, which you can do with a Stable Diffusion plugin, if you’d like). The healing brush is better than using the Spot Healing tool. Curves is identical. The clone tool is identical.
I could list a bunch of things that are simply better in GIMP. Like using the middle mouse button for dragging the canvas. People have been demanding that from Adobe for years and have been ignored. I prefer the always-on, one-click “transform selection” for GIMP’s selection tool verses having to use the “Transform Selection” command in Photoshop. I also really like the option where the brush stays the same size (on the screen) while zooming in. Basically, the brush scales down when you zoom in. Easy to toggle on and off. The Free Select tool in GIMP is better than the Lasso in Photoshop. There are more things I could point out.
The only thing that Photoshop is definitely better than GIMP at doing is CMYK and prepress work. And I do miss Actions despite having full control with Python. There is a solid batch processing plug-in for GIMP, though.
So what do you really do in Photoshop that GIMP can’t do? Would you even know? Hell, you thought GIMP doesn’t have plug-in support.
Saying shit like, “it takes you about 15 seconds using each program to understand the difference and to see the massive gulf between them” is unhelpful and simply not true. It takes weeks in each program to learn how to do things the way that program wants you to do them. One person not familiar with one of the two programs cannot make that judgment in 15 seconds. That’s nonsense.
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Deception? I asked what you thought GIMP was missing and then you went and made huge assumptions about me. That’s on you. I only replied the way I did because of what you said. Next time maybe just answer a question instead of insulting someone for even asking. Or don’t answer it. That’s fine, too.
Eh it’s reasonable to think you had some specific opinions, but you only have one point that Photoshop has something gimp doesn’t.
You seem dismissive and not unbiased when you are so general about things.
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I just got here, I don’t think the other dude was being sneaky
GIMP still kind of sucks
DaVinci Resolve is on part with PS tho
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Affinity is an excellent replacement for Photoshop, Illustrator, and Publisher. Gimp is a dumpster fire, both as software and a FOSS project.
Yeah, I tried Gimp. Hated it. One of the biggest issues with Gimp, besides features, is the workflow. If you are trying to get Photoshop users to move over, then it needs to at least have a similar workflow. It’s completely different though. You are learning an entirely new tool with new shortcuts. No one has time for this.
Look at vscode or neovim. Most devs use one of 5 editors these days. Vscode and neovim being the most popular. If you want to compete with these tools, they need to have a similar workflow and feel to what people are used to. Otherwise, no one will use it.
I’ll use photopea over gimp any day for this reason.
There is photoGIMP which redesigns the UI to be more like Photoshop. There’s also Photoshop keyboard shortcut lists out there that you can change GIMP to.
It’s not perfect, but it defiantly helps for a lot of people.
For whatever reason, GIMP really wants to try and not be Photoshop when that’s literally the thing it’s competing against.
Yeh. No fault of course in of itself tho. Gimp developers have tried to make something, but it just hasn’t materialised in the same way as Blender. Kudos for trying.
I may have to finally make the switch. I’ve been using photoshop/illustrator for over 25 years now though…
It’s gonna be damn hard to make the switch…
EDIT: Just now uninstalled all my Adobe software, canceled my Adobe subscriptions. Replaced with Affinity. :)
They are the industry standard so they can do anything
Didn’t stop me from switching to Linux for my entire workflow. Industry standard is just a phrase. It doesn’t truly mean anything when viable and real alternatives exist.
I don’t think that’s true, at least for companies.
Industry standard or even company standard means you need a very critical reason to switch because doing so is very costly in ways that don’t really affect an individual or a small team.
This is why large corps often still use decades old software that may be terrible by that point, but impossible to move away from.
And sometimes those large corps slowly die off because of those decisions. Technology moves so fast that you can’t afford to be a dinosaur using 20 year old software.
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No alternative for after effects, is there?
Blender, amigo.
It does have strong composite features which is mostly what I need. Is there a plug in making it as easy as Ae timeline or some 2D motion workflow?
I don’t mess with it enough, but DaVinci Resolve’s Fusion is rather powerful.