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Most people want to use a service which is big and popular and just works, and I don’t think they care about code licensing…
It would be cool if Europe could make a really successful, open source social media platform which most Europeans want to use, but if it was open source then I expect some company (maybe a foreign one) would take the code, bolt on some proprietary features, and start stealing users.
OBS has a techy following though, rather than an audience of mainstream people who aren’t especially tech-savvy.
I suppose perhaps the best example of a successful open source social media platform is Bluesky. Some people on Lemmy don’t like Bluesky (and I don’t use Bluesky myself) but it’s getting at least some mainstream traction.
If Bluesky continues to grow then maybe a European open source social media platform could work. In fact maybe some European government or company could set up a Bluesky server.
The fact you’re getting downvotes to fuck shows, I think, how unrealistic a lot of people here are. Proprietary or open, a service lives or dies based on it’s uptake. Uptake requires marketing, marketing requires money, money requires investors, investors who aren’t going to spend their money on something that isn’t profitable for them and it’s hard to see how giving users control of their data and giving them the tools to turn their backs on abusive monoliths leads to profit as compared to, say, the exact opposite.
I definitely want people to have control over their data. And I like open source platforms, which is why I’m using Lemmy. But I just think if we want a European social media platform that sees widespread adoption among normal people, then such a platform would probably have proprietary elements. Surely if it was completely open source then some company could come along, take the open source stuff, bolt on some proprietary novelties, and start grabbing market share.
No no. When you start seeing the Internet as an extension of the physical world you will understand. I’m not against private but the priority here is public and open source. You don’t need marketing to use the pavement outside to walk to the park and meet your friends do you? Or to drive to work per example: some countries have tolls but there’s always a public road to get you were you need to go. The right to free social media should be a fundamental right. Also the standardisation and opening of APIs to certified entities should be mandatory. Those are basic anti-monopolistic practices.
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Your definition of successful is realistically very different than mine.
Most people want to use a service which is big and popular and just works, and I don’t think they care about code licensing…
It would be cool if Europe could make a really successful, open source social media platform which most Europeans want to use, but if it was open source then I expect some company (maybe a foreign one) would take the code, bolt on some proprietary features, and start stealing users.
linux is big, popular and just works just not yet on the desktop.
obs broadcaster is big, popular and everyone uses it. theres no good substitue for it.
both open source.
no company just stole the code and made an even popular version. there are dozen of examples.
or the dagor engine of war thunder. it was made open source yet no competitor cane and made a more popular game.
can you list some things when this thing of yours ever happened?
OBS has a techy following though, rather than an audience of mainstream people who aren’t especially tech-savvy.
I suppose perhaps the best example of a successful open source social media platform is Bluesky. Some people on Lemmy don’t like Bluesky (and I don’t use Bluesky myself) but it’s getting at least some mainstream traction.
If Bluesky continues to grow then maybe a European open source social media platform could work. In fact maybe some European government or company could set up a Bluesky server.
The fact you’re getting downvotes to fuck shows, I think, how unrealistic a lot of people here are. Proprietary or open, a service lives or dies based on it’s uptake. Uptake requires marketing, marketing requires money, money requires investors, investors who aren’t going to spend their money on something that isn’t profitable for them and it’s hard to see how giving users control of their data and giving them the tools to turn their backs on abusive monoliths leads to profit as compared to, say, the exact opposite.
I definitely want people to have control over their data. And I like open source platforms, which is why I’m using Lemmy. But I just think if we want a European social media platform that sees widespread adoption among normal people, then such a platform would probably have proprietary elements. Surely if it was completely open source then some company could come along, take the open source stuff, bolt on some proprietary novelties, and start grabbing market share.
No no. When you start seeing the Internet as an extension of the physical world you will understand. I’m not against private but the priority here is public and open source. You don’t need marketing to use the pavement outside to walk to the park and meet your friends do you? Or to drive to work per example: some countries have tolls but there’s always a public road to get you were you need to go. The right to free social media should be a fundamental right. Also the standardisation and opening of APIs to certified entities should be mandatory. Those are basic anti-monopolistic practices. Edit: typos/missing words