Hi all,

The quick and dirty questions is: Which distro should I try next?

I tried Debian X11 and Fedora with Wayland, but I did not have a great experience with them for my Lenovo Legion 5 Pro RTX3060. I installed proprietary drivers on both systems since people say that they’re better than Nouveau, but the framerate stutters even in simple browser game.

I use some software to slice 3d models for printing, and that one stuttered too. I tried various fixes but none of them worked, and I’d really like to switch to Linux from Microsoft for my daily driver.

What distro can I use to have a better experience? Any advice is welcome, but please make it as specific as possible and if you can, address why that distro would be better than Debian 12 and Fedora 42.

Thanks in advance!

  • jonion@lemmy.world
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    Distros are a red herring. I used debian 12 (first gnome, then xfce) for more than a year with no problems, and the current version of Bazzite is also problem-free for me when it comes to nvidia prime (apart from a KDE-specific memory leak). Basically, this should be easily fixable without a fresh install.

    I don’t know what distro you’re on atm, but set up prime-run and try running programs with that. I also recommend going onto the uefi and disabling secure boot. You can get it to work with proprietary nvidia drivers, but it’s a bit of a process and unless you really need it you might as well leave it off for now.

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    NVIDIA mostly does fine with Wayland now IME. Running KDE Wayland on a Legion Slim 5 with RTX 4060 myself for over a year now, with minimal problems after the NVIDIA 550+ drivers came out.

    I did have definite problems, including on X11, with the 535 drivers that the Debian repos were still using at last check. Your best bet is probably to install the latest drivers straight from NVIDIA’s repos: https://docs.nvidia.com/datacenter/tesla/driver-installation-guide/index.html

    That’s what I ended up doing on a Debian-based distro, and it pretty much fixed my issues. There are specific instructions linked there for different supported distros.

    My daily driver now is Garuda, which is essentially just Arch with a GUI installer and some extremely handy extra user-friendly tools bolted on. It’s aimed at gaming, and so makes it extra easy to get the drivers set up and kept up to date. That is basically why I decided to give their installer a go in the first place after I got this laptop, to at least let it run hardware detection and see how it was configuring things, to tell where I might have been going wrong in my then-main distro. Then I liked the experience enough that I stuck around. It mostly just works.

    Note: This would be from someone with experience on Arch. If you’re not cool with rolling releases, that may not be a good choice. Garuda does default to a BTRFS/Snapper setup that makes it easy to just boot into a previous snapshot if anything does break, which does come in handy occasionally.

    But, as other commenters have already said? The distro itself doesn’t really matter. That’s mainly just down to personal taste. The important part here is getting the right drivers and configuration going on whatever you do prefer to use. Some distros just make this easier than others

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    It’s still Fedora under the hood, but Nobara has a pile of graphics tweaks to enable video editing and gaming, by the developer of the Proton layer that Valve uses for Steam. It’s optimized for high end graphics and nVidia cards.

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    I second disabling Nouveau via blacklist, and I’m unsure if there is similar software for Lenovo, but I use asusctl to force the use of the Nvidia card over the integrated Vega graphics. This could very well be an issue with graphics card switching, so it’s worth looking into.

    As for distro recs, while most would probably recommended Linux Mint for beginners, I prefer to recommend Bazzite. It’s Fedora-based, but comes with Nvidia drivers and lots of gaming optimization baked-in.

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    3 days ago

    Check the lenovo legión discord server, there is a linux channel and they can help you better than here probably

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    nvidia stutters on linux for me too and there was nothing i could do to fix. its better on x11.

    ive also seen plenty of weird issues on nvidia laptops with switchable graphics.

    please tell me if you ever find a solution.

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        it does, but they don’t fix the nvidia-specific bugs afaik, they just preinstall the driver.

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        Dual booting PopOS seems pretty rough though, with risks to the windows installation and bootloader

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          Made this comment before I saw your other comment…

          Dual booting creates all sort of complications

          I raw dogged my situation and when dual booting failed I said fuxk satya the creep and just made A LOT of personal computing changes

          With that being said, don’t be me. Ease into it

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          I went back to Windows10 so I could dual-boot with Secure Boot turned off. My system will dual boot popOS or Debian without issue. Just make sure to install windows first.

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    Does your laptop have 2 GPU’s?

    NVIDIA Optimus sucks for Linux, I would suggest looking into EnvyControl and forcing your xorg & xrandr to use your NVIDIA GPU primarily and not the iGPU.

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    My choice is Arch Linux purely because it’s bleeding edge

    I’ve no idea if Arch actually has newer drivers than Debian / Fedora, but if they are you’ll (usually) get better support from the developers of whatever application / package - or in your case - drivers that you’re facing.

    It’s more involved than “just” installing Debian, etc… but reading through the Arch Linux wiki as you install will (should) ensure you’ve got the correct drivers setup and you’ll know why they’re working.

    So… it’ll be more effort, but you might get “better” results.

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      I’ve no idea if Arch actually has newer drivers than Debian / Fedora

      Kinda, since Arch has nvidia’s own drivers in their extra repo, whereas in Fedora you’ll have to do some stuff to get them.

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    3 days ago

    This could be an issue where the AMD GPU is only being used. I, like some of the others would suggest Linux Mint.

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    I don’t have experience with dual GPU laptops but from what I’ve heard PopOS handles them really well. They also have an image with the nvidia drivers preinstalled which should make the setup process straightforward

    Edit: I also found this github repo which documents some fixes for issues on that device specifically. Not sure how many of these have been patched upstream by now but it’s worth checking out.

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    Try Ubuntu, it has a user friendly GUI for installing Nvidia and other 3 parts drivers.

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    My spouse has a laptop from Asus with VERY similar Specs (but an RTX 3050ti instead of a 3060) and so far Linux Mint has been a pretty trouble -free experience with ONE condition:

    I set it to use the dedicated nvidia gpu 24/7 as opposed to the integrated AMD gpu. I forgot what exactly was happening but if memory serves it was disrupting something, I think recovering from closing the lid?

    After doing that we’ve never had an issue again. They mostly use at their desk plugged in, sp the power usage isn’t much a concern.

    Hope this helps!

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        I don’t remember it being particularly difficult, I’m a bit of a linux newb myself, but I’d be lying if I said I remember which steps I took off the top of my head.

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    Did you make sure that Nouveau was not loading? If both drivers are on the system, Nouveau usually ends up taking precedence unless it’s been blacklisted. Also, if this is a laptop type with a hybrid graphics setup, you may need additional software to manage the handoff between GPUs (optimus, bumblebee, etc.)

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      I’ve done some more digging and indeed, the AMD integrated GPU is being used. Optimus seems like a good option, but then apparently I’d have to use x11 as the desktop renderer because Wayland doesn’t play nice with nvidia.

      As far as I can see, x11 will be deprecated not too long from now?

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        OP, as someone who has a very similarly specced laptop:

        Install Linux Mint, do a one click install of the Nvidia driver with the mint GUI driver installer, and then open the application that’s stuttering from your start menu by right clicking on it, and select ‘run with discrete GPU’, which will force it to use your Nvidia card.

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        Mark my words, X11 will still be around as an option 10 years from now.
        Linux Mint, probably the most popular distro, doesn’t even support Wayland in its default configuration, yet.

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        Wayland’s nvidia support is improving over time, but although it’s becoming less popular, X11 isn’t likely to be completely deprecated anytime soon—I’d expect any mainstream distro to still at least have it as an option a couple of years from now, to handle corner cases Wayland still doesn’t support.

        The last X11 stable version bump on my distro was about a month ago, to 21.1.16, so it isn’t like it’s abandonware or anything.

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          Oh, that’s good to know. So I can just install x11 on my Fedora no problem whatsoever?

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            Provided Fedora has the appropriate packages (and I expect they do), I can’t see why not. But see if there’s any distro-specific documentation on switching first.

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    That’s odd, I remember using Debian 12 without this issue when it was released, I later switched to an Arch based distro (Endeavour OS) to experiment with how it would run games (they ran better, I think some games were freezing on Debian 12 stable).

    I can’t say anything about Fedora, never used it.

    Do you have more information about the specific driver you installed on Debian 12 and Fedora 42? Like the version number? Maybe the neofetch result of your computer specs too.

    Sorry for not being able to give more details.

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      Thanks for your answer! I had 535 installed on Debian 12 and 570 on Fedora 42. This is the result of fastfetch (neofetch is EOL). Let me know if you need any more info or if you think you have something that might help. Thanks!

      System Details:

      • OS: Fedora Linux 42 (Workstation Edition)

      • Host: Lenovo Legion 5 Pro 16ACH (82JQ)

      • Kernel: Linux 6.14.5-300.fc42.x86_64

      • Uptime: 30 mins

      • Locale: en_GB.UTF-8

      Hardware:

      • CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800H (16) @ 4.46 GHz

      • GPU 1: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Mobile

      • GPU 2: AMD Radeon Vega Series

      • Memory: 4.30 GiB / 27.25 GiB (16%)

      • Swap: 0 B / 8.00 GiB (0%)

      • Disk (/): 23.09 GiB / 243.14 GiB (9%)

      • Display: 2560x1600 @ 60 Hz

      • Battery: 60% [AC Connected]

      Software Environment:

      • DE: GNOME 48.1

      • WM: Mutter (Wayland)

      • Theme: Adwaita

      • Packages: 2490 (rpm), 12 (flatpak)

      • Shell: bash 5.2.37

      • Terminal: Ptyxis 48.1

      • Network: 192.168.2.14/24 (wlp4s0)