• timestatic@feddit.org
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    5 days ago

    Startpage got bought by System1 in 2019. System1 is an American advertising company. I personally use Qwant for privacy reasons - They’re also in the process of building their own search index together with Ecosia.

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      6 days ago

      We need a more diverse browser engine market to keep the web open.

      We definitely do, but it’s a tall order considering making a fully functional and daily usable browser engine is one of the most difficult programming projects to under take

      At least we got Ladybird with its brand new from scratch engine coming up though! (In 2028…)

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        It’s absolutely not a simple thing, but if we let the web turn into Chrome-only then Ladybird doesn’t stand a chance. For now, more market share for Firefox and Firefox-based browsers is the only argument against making websites only work in Chrome.

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          6 days ago

          Especially if Chrome is bought by OpenAI or some of the other players who want to enshittify it even faster and have shown interest.

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    6 days ago

    Some of these products would not exist without their American counterpart, which directly fuel their existance.

    Librewolf is just a hardened version of Firefox. It would not exist without the Firefox team continuing to develop Firefox and to fix its security issues.

    Ecosia primarely uses Bing and Startpage uses Google for search results. Both would not exist without the search engines backing them.

    I’m not saying these are bad products and I don’t mean to criticiseze. I’m actually a librewolf user myself. I just think it is important to point out that the European label might be deceiving in this instance and might mislead people into thinking they are using something different than they actually are.

    It might also not be so important. Perhaps focusing our energy on good open source projects and NGO-backed initiatives is desirable regardless of their origin?

    idk food for thought

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    6 days ago

    EDIT I misunderstood the post, this is what you’re using, not what you’re recommending, sorry about that!
    I will still include my original comment below.

    Still, I use and can recommend XMPP and the provider magicbroccoli.de! Arne the admin is also a swell guy!


    Bold move recommending US Signal over European Telegram!

    I’d personally trust neither very much; one’s US funded and the other clearly not as secure outside “secret chats”.

    But what about Threema? Or a European XMPP provider like the excellent magicbroccoli.de?

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        4 days ago

        Nice, I hadn’t heard of that one. For anyone wondering, it’s pretty loose on who owns it, but the nonprofit that keeps things moving forward is based in Australia.