Can you please dont repost russian propaganda???
This looks like russian PMCs in Mali, posting for a photo op.
By using it as a meme Template u further “russia strong” narrative.
If i should be wrong with my assumptions please let me know.
Our local grocery store now has signs on the door warning people that long guns are not allowed on the property. All because some asshole carried a shot gun in one of their branches in Texas.
Yep, mercenaries being recruited into a civil war against ISIS is totally the same as a genocide in a concentration camp.
You want nuance? The actions of Russian Mercenaries in Mali are the results of soldiers being in a war, they are there by the choice of the highly popular military junta they’re not an invading force they’re there to help with destroying ISIS, and when you give a bunch of idiots guns and put them somewhere far from home they’re going to kill innocent people at some point, but I don’t trust a single bit of reporting from western media on this, the same media that was hiding the crimes of western armies in Iraq and Mali itself suddenly caring about innocent civilians, and unlike France the U.S. Russia wasn’t part of the Safari club and wasn’t the one funding the Afghanistan terrorists in the 80s.
You talk about nuance, that not every person killed is an ISIS member, well maybe by your logic not all the mercenaries fighting ISIS happen to be war criminals?
As someone who doesn’t know shit about military technology, nothing about this suggest Russia to me. In fact it doesn’t suggest any country, except “hur dur Americans like shooting” because of context.
So I don’t know, is it propaganda if you need to have specialised knowledge to recognise what’s being advertised?
Just because you dont recognize State backed Private Military Forces who committing war crimes in Mali…dosent mean this Picture is less propaganda.
Would u still find the meme funny if it where the same picture but u would realize what it is?
edit: never mind i just realized what instance this was posted in…arguments are probably futile
I don’t know, it at least doesn’t seem like very effective propaganda if only a tiny group of people even recognise what it’s showing. Propaganda usually tries to reach as many people as possible with very simple and effective imagery. So I’m not sure.
I get where you’re coming from, if you do have that specialised knowledge, it must be obvious to you. But without that, I don’t see how anyone would think “Russia strong” just from this picture. For all I know, they might be Ukrainians.
They arent Ukrainians, what would make you think that.
See the idea behind this picture in the first place was “we show off new gun development” aka “russia strong”, added to that where this picture was taken and you have a geopolitical context.
That not everyone strait out sees that they are russians…i would say furthers the meme because this makes it “slip thru” and gain some traction, if enough ppl see the picture they will ask themself “huh what is that creazy weapon” and then someone in the comments points out its “russias new mega blaster 9000 russia strong hahaha”.
I dont even say that with the caption above it it aint making for a flat laugh…it probably does. But the issu is deeper, people would probably not laugh about a picture showing a American Drone strike with the caption “dropped a big one in the toilet” but concept wise its the same thing.
They arent Ukrainians, what would make you think that.
Or Argentinians or New Zealandians or Norwegians or South Africans or whatever. What would make me think that (if I even thought of ANY nationality) is that I don’t know, I know nothing about any military, I wouldn’t recognise them unless they have very ostentatious symbols of their nationality somewhere on them or I’m being told “these are [country]ans”. That’s why I said “for all I know” and then added the most polar opposite option I could think of.
added to that where this picture was taken
Which I also don’t recognise. Might be anywhere in the world. (well, “anywhere” is an exaggeration, it does look rather hot and dry)
“russias new mega blaster 9000 russia strong hahaha”.
That would count as propaganda, of course, from that person in particular.
people would probably not laugh about a picture showing a American Drone strike with the caption “dropped a big one in the toilet”
I don’t know, active drone strikes seem different to me from some dude posing with a stupid big gun. The connection to “Americans being posers in Walmart” is a lot stronger.
Anyway, what I can accept is that people might use this picture for their actual propaganda if it is spread around, I get that, and I agree that we need to be cautious. I’d venture though to say that anything that is even remotely related to some kind of national identity can be used that way. That includes stuff like news coverage of Russian aggression (“Woah what is that weapon making the cool fireworks over Kyiv?”).
I second this. I know fuck all about military stuff and I laughed purely at the image of such small dick energy and excessive force just for going to Walmart.
Can you please dont repost russian propaganda??? This looks like russian PMCs in Mali, posting for a photo op. By using it as a meme Template u further “russia strong” narrative.
If i should be wrong with my assumptions please let me know.
Our local grocery store now has signs on the door warning people that long guns are not allowed on the property. All because some asshole carried a shot gun in one of their branches in Texas.
Those ammunition backpacks are a gimmick. That dude is going to be a heat casualty with a sun burnt head, should have packed water instead.
I thought it was making fun of American meat heads who carry guns everywhere when they really don’t need to be caring guns to mundane places.
they why not just take a picture of a american instead of a russian if one wants to make that joke
Boo hoo cry baby ISIS
how nuanced, but yes sure every civilian they killed sure was ISIS just like everyone killed in gaza where terrorists right?
Man i thought the talks abour .ml people where exaggerated…but na some or yall are truly dense mfs
Yep, mercenaries being recruited into a civil war against ISIS is totally the same as a genocide in a concentration camp.
You want nuance? The actions of Russian Mercenaries in Mali are the results of soldiers being in a war, they are there by the choice of the highly popular military junta they’re not an invading force they’re there to help with destroying ISIS, and when you give a bunch of idiots guns and put them somewhere far from home they’re going to kill innocent people at some point, but I don’t trust a single bit of reporting from western media on this, the same media that was hiding the crimes of western armies in Iraq and Mali itself suddenly caring about innocent civilians, and unlike France the U.S. Russia wasn’t part of the Safari club and wasn’t the one funding the Afghanistan terrorists in the 80s.
You talk about nuance, that not every person killed is an ISIS member, well maybe by your logic not all the mercenaries fighting ISIS happen to be war criminals?
As someone who doesn’t know shit about military technology, nothing about this suggest Russia to me. In fact it doesn’t suggest any country, except “hur dur Americans like shooting” because of context.
So I don’t know, is it propaganda if you need to have specialised knowledge to recognise what’s being advertised?
Just because you dont recognize State backed Private Military Forces who committing war crimes in Mali…dosent mean this Picture is less propaganda. Would u still find the meme funny if it where the same picture but u would realize what it is?
edit: never mind i just realized what instance this was posted in…arguments are probably futile
I don’t know, it at least doesn’t seem like very effective propaganda if only a tiny group of people even recognise what it’s showing. Propaganda usually tries to reach as many people as possible with very simple and effective imagery. So I’m not sure.
I get where you’re coming from, if you do have that specialised knowledge, it must be obvious to you. But without that, I don’t see how anyone would think “Russia strong” just from this picture. For all I know, they might be Ukrainians.
They arent Ukrainians, what would make you think that. See the idea behind this picture in the first place was “we show off new gun development” aka “russia strong”, added to that where this picture was taken and you have a geopolitical context. That not everyone strait out sees that they are russians…i would say furthers the meme because this makes it “slip thru” and gain some traction, if enough ppl see the picture they will ask themself “huh what is that creazy weapon” and then someone in the comments points out its “russias new mega blaster 9000 russia strong hahaha”.
I dont even say that with the caption above it it aint making for a flat laugh…it probably does. But the issu is deeper, people would probably not laugh about a picture showing a American Drone strike with the caption “dropped a big one in the toilet” but concept wise its the same thing.
Or Argentinians or New Zealandians or Norwegians or South Africans or whatever. What would make me think that (if I even thought of ANY nationality) is that I don’t know, I know nothing about any military, I wouldn’t recognise them unless they have very ostentatious symbols of their nationality somewhere on them or I’m being told “these are [country]ans”. That’s why I said “for all I know” and then added the most polar opposite option I could think of.
Which I also don’t recognise. Might be anywhere in the world. (well, “anywhere” is an exaggeration, it does look rather hot and dry)
That would count as propaganda, of course, from that person in particular.
I don’t know, active drone strikes seem different to me from some dude posing with a stupid big gun. The connection to “Americans being posers in Walmart” is a lot stronger.
Anyway, what I can accept is that people might use this picture for their actual propaganda if it is spread around, I get that, and I agree that we need to be cautious. I’d venture though to say that anything that is even remotely related to some kind of national identity can be used that way. That includes stuff like news coverage of Russian aggression (“Woah what is that weapon making the cool fireworks over Kyiv?”).
I second this. I know fuck all about military stuff and I laughed purely at the image of such small dick energy and excessive force just for going to Walmart.