I was playing around with Lemmy statistics the other day, and I decided to take the number of comments per post. Essentially a measure of engagement – the higher the number the more engaging the post is. Or in other words how many people were pissed off enough to comment, or had something they felt like sharing. The average for every single Lemmy instance was 8.208262964 comments per post.
So I modeled that with a Poisson distribution, in stats terms X~Po(8.20826), then found the critical regions assuming that anything that had a less than 5% chance of happening, is important. In other words 5% is the significance level. The critical regions are the region either side of the distribution where the probability of ending up in those regions is less than 5%. These critical regions on the lower tail are, 4 comments and on the upper tail is 13 comments, what this means is that if you get less than 4 comments or more than 13 comments, that’s a meaningful value. So I chose to interpret those results as meaning that if you get 5 or less comments than your post is “a bad post”, or if you get 13 or more than your post is “a good post”. A good post here is litterally just “got a lot of comments than expected of a typical post”, vice versa for “a bad post”.
You will notice that this is quite rudimentary, like what about when the Americans are asleep, most posts do worse then. That’s not accounted for here, because it increases the complexity beyond what I can really handle in a post.
To give you an idea of a more sweeping internet trend, the adage 1% 9% 90%, where 1% do the posting, 9% do the commenting, and 90% are lurkers – assuming each person does an average of 1 thing a day, suggests that c/p should be about 9 for all sites regardless of size.
Now what is more interesting is that comments per post varies by instance, lemmy.world for example has an engagement of 9.5 c/p and lemmy.ml has 4.8 c/p, this means that a “good post” on .ml is a post that gets 9 comments, whilst a “good post” on .world has to get 15 comments. On hexbear.net, you need 20 comments, to be a “good post”. I got the numbers for instance level comments and posts from here
This is a little bit silly, since a “good post”, by this metric, is really just a post that baits lots and lots of engagement, specifically in the form of comments – so if you are reading this you should comment, otherwise you are an awful person. No matter how meaningless the comment.
Anyway I thought that was cool.
EDIT: I’ve cleared up a lot of the wording and tried to make it clearer as to what I am actually doing.
No, you did your math wrong
Also, something about politics.
(Just kidding. This is neat 😎)
Thanks. That was the toxicity I was expecting. Even if it’s not sincere, I appreciate it. I’ve been kinda withdrawing after switching to Lemmy, and I really needed a dose of Reddit hostility.
We had the chance to upvote this heavily without leaving any comments, but we blew it
https://pawb.social/u/LemUrun ruined it!
post is too unfortunately
post is too unfortunately
they don’t think it be like it is but it do
accidentally a word
I accidentally the whole thing! I miss that one.
What the hell is this?
A dying gasp collected from the old internet.
Considering the upvotes, you guys seem to have filled in just fine
Why would you make a comment while knowing how this works. Everybody stop commenting! Don’t even do it as a meta-comment joke!
Right! Sorry.
Shhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Interesting numbers, it would be great to see how the statistics look for different “categories” of communities. Interaction based communities (c/ask X) and political communities will naturally garner more comments than information communities. E.g. while you may enjoy the content of blogs posted on !godot@programming.dev or !programming@programming.dev, you’re probably less likely to comment than on !asklemmy@lemmy.world or !casualconversation@lemmy.world
I actually plotted the top 50 or so instances, with user size against comments/post. One of the many outlier instances was lemmynsfw.com which obviously lacks all that much engagement, with a score of around 1 c/p. Which makes quite a bit of sense when you think about it.
Fun break down! More comments is more interesting than more posts for me
Well then, here, have a comment.
Doing my part to make this a good post, cause it was.
I support your support.
that could be because it is an AMAZING post – it covered all the points and no one has anything left to say
Finally, I know why.
This does happen with comments sometimes. I go into a post and someone has already eloquently said what I would have said (often better than I would have). So I upvote it and move along
The average for every single Lemmy instance was 8.208262964 comments per post.
I wonder how much that statistic would change if you exclude news or politics communities.
That’s a good point. Please take this two thirds of a comment as tribute.
this is a certified good post
You didn’t factor in the variability of federation vs. a single platform and how not only can it affect how long it takes for everyone to see a post, if they do at all, but also how many duplications there may be floating around. And I don’t know if you can predict that reliably, as we’re all still trying to figure it out.
Oh, you can absolutely increase how meaningful this is. I only took college level statistics so this is very rudimentary. But yeah, I don’t know how you would predict how long something would take to be seen etc.
Now what is more interesting is that comments per post varies by instance, lemmy.world for example has an engagement of 9.5 c/p and lemmy.ml has 4.8 c/p
I don’t understand what this is supposed to mean. The commenter’s account, or the community they posted to is on .world/.ml? Because those aren’t necessarily the same.
Presumably where you posted it, given that local feeds show posts based, not on if someone is on the instance, but rather which instance the post is made on. The model I used is litterally the most basic thing in the world, so I just cobbled something together that was somewhat meaningful. I only took college stats, so complex models are out of my range.
Cool !
Thank a lot for sharing this with us, i love those data :)
Your correct use of the plural makes me oddly uncomfortable.
Don’t be too mad at me
/c/theydidamath
Everybody stop commenting! Wait, did I just…dammit!
Bamboozled!
I’ve happily found that there is much more interaction here than on Mastodon :)
Mastodon mainly only looks like there is no interaction happening because of their federating logic. Which is being worked on to be fixed sometimes this year
Does that mean we would see more posts / accounts being recommended?
It means that if you see a post, you will finally see all replies and interactions to that post. Currently this is not working.
Oh holy shit is that when I tried mastodon it felt like a ghost town with people only posting and no one engaging in discussions?
I mean, in microblogging a lot of posts will have no discussions simply because thats the nature of microblogging. But if you saw no interaction and discussion under posts of people who have lots of followers, then certainly yes.
When I post here I get replies. On mastodon I don’t.
I see that you have a very good quota of comments that you get on every lemmy post you make. I dont think that’s true for every poster, especially when posting to niche lemmy communities.
But yes: of course the lemmy format invites comments way more than the microblogging format of mastodon
It’s a different model.
Mastodon, like Twitter, is a person-centered setup. You can use hashtags, but most people don’t. You follow people not communities. As a result it’s basically microblogs, where most people are just posting into the void. Celebrities are followed more, so they get more replies, so there are more conversations. But, fundamentally it’s not really inviting interactions.
Lemmy, like Reddit, is a topic-centered setup. It has a bunch of communities and people post something because they think it might be interesting for people who are also interested in that community. Every post is basically an invitation to have a discussion about something.
I think the friction to posting something on Lemmy is slightly higher, but when you do, it’s more likely to generate comments.
goes back to lurking in the shadows
You are doing a terrible job of lurking. Thank you.