Why are most people here are negative and rude?

Just to be clear here, I am not talking about instance, rather I am asking about the whole community.

There is no one I seen here who even had expressed any passion towards anything really.

I cannot understand how did that happen?

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    I’ve found much more genuine, honest discussion on here than other platforms. More people say thanks when someone corrects them. I feel like I’m talking to reasonable adults, for the most part.

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    Are people negative and rude or not expressed passion towards anything?

    Also, I think there is a good passion for tech surrounding this community. I like that.

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      Yeah ! Except in the dev/code realm… They seem very aggressive to each other, specially if you whisper something like: Rust is safer than C !

      I don’t really get it, but I find It very pleasant to read when passionate people write a whole essay I don’t even understand 1/10 of what they are writing… However, there seems some heated negativity in that community !

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      ehhh i wouldn’t it way to start and angry mob and sometimes i dont trust mods descension. since even servers with no rules will make up reasons for a ban

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        Find the best available option? Or start your own server with no rules and attract others who want no rules?

        I think a good community would have restrictions to avoid unnecessary hate

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    Its the internet, no matter how much people here like to think lemmy is some kind of special utopia its no different to any other site or social media.

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    You’ll have to be more specific. I’m not seeing any unusual amount of negativity.

    What’s that thing about expressing any passion? What do you mean by that?

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      Go to any political post. Everyone is calling others names and it’s not productive at all.

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        But that’s humans? It’s always been like that, everywhere at all times. The only thing that’s changed, maybe, is that Lemmy is growing and there’s more discussion in general so of course the absolute number of things that cause name-calling has grown too, just like the absolute number of things that don’t.

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          That’s not true. Go to youtube and read the comments under any lofi video but that’s just one example. When Lemmy just started it was a place for people to escape the fanatics and now it’s becoming more toxic.

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            And that’s Youtube, an entirely different place that isn’t the topic of discussion here and that’s ALSO always been Like That. Never Look At The Comments is received wisdom.

      • Donald J. Musk@lemmy.today
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        Yep, most smaller communities on Lemmy are awesome. Political communities are terrible and the people who are mad at ya in those, will follow you to non-political communities just to downvote and harrass. It’s toxic.

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    Selection bias mostly, you only remember the negative interactions. I’m new here but I’ve not run into any particularly negative or rude people so they don’t seem super common, nowhere near like reddit.

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      yeah i noticed they tend to go after certain posts and they need to be primed by either downvotes or a comment. the rude people will be quiet if you make safe posts but if they get a hint that there other people that don’t like you then they dogpile. i noticed a good way to trigger it is to basically say or imply you do things without their approval or you dont care what they think

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        but if they get a hint that there other people that don’t like you then they dogpile.

        Yep! And they’ll follow you to other communities just to downvote. It’s crazy how some here.

        I still like Lemmy more than Reddit tho!

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          Lol yesh they got obsessed with me to the point that I had to delete old accounts. Like I posted a story about how I kept calling out a developer for always hyping and never delivering and even lying. They basically would not let me post it on any other community and they even successfully got shit post c/ to delete the story.

          Funniest thing is that I posted it to a obscure 200 followers community and one of them still found it and started attacking me.

          These people are hilarious. They’re petty and I’m petty, and they’re the embodiment of anger (irrational) mod

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              I see your a conservative on a left leaning platform which that’s got to be hilarious. Don’t worry I think fediverse should be welcoming to the right and help the right make their own instance. I’m anti corporations so I’m happy if corporations lose audience do to their audience doing their own thing.

              That guy is obsessed and really wants other people to hate you. Personally I ignore the peer pressure nonsense

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                  Lol he actually quote clipped you. Man that’s guys looking for reasons to be petty. Make sure to talk in as simple terms as possible

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                I see your a conservative on a left leaning platform which that’s got to be hilarious.

                It’s definitely been an adventure. I was banned from a politics sub because they thought I was an alt username from some other banned conservative person. Not because of what I posted or what I said, but because they thought I was an alt of a entirely different conservative poster. Which I’m not, by the way. lmao

                But yeah, I ignore all the peer pressure here.

                Lemmy isn’t open to alternative voices… yet. But I think we’ll eventually get big enough to allow people of all viewpoints here–which many people here DON’T want, and that’s why the pushback.

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        That sounds… rather conspiratorial.

        Also, just yesterday I posted a longish rant about doing what you want and not caring about what people think in a comment and the only reply I got was ‘This is the kind of pep talk I need!’, so… shrug Guess we travel in different circles.

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          well i don’t say that its orchestrated or premeditated, its generally that group wants to feel part of a group and they look for signs that they’re part of a group. the “tipping point” is a comment (or even a downvote on op replies) and then people that seek approval align themselves with the largest group.

          I told the anti ai crowd that i was going to make an ai bot somewhere on the fediverse just to see how people would interact with it fedizens, simply to satify my curiosity, so that’s the context. i just telling people “you’re being an asshole to me and making demands from me while I’m just trying to hear you out, so i don’t feel like changing for you”

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            My bad, perhaps the better word to use would’ve been paranoid. Had a similar ring to ‘they only come out when no one else is looking’, ya know?

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              Oh okay. I did have a conversation I tried to explain a litteral conspiracy and I kept getting called a conspiracy theorist

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    It’s probably a downstream effect of the souring mood in the United States as the consequences of the current administration and our slide into fascism become increasingly apparent. Can’t speak for the rest of the world, but it’s hard to believe things are getting better out there.

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      The amount of dogshit takes from 2 week old to 3 month old accounts is absurd, Lemmy instances should institute a one month lurking period or something. Some fuckass actually posted Asmongold to a gaming group. Its a tidal wave.

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    The Tumblr effect

    Thing allows freedom of speech Thing now has “bad apples” Thing either get lobotomized or accomodates with that freedom.

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    Okay, there are three reasons why this is:

    1. Anonymity grants people the ability to be assholes.

    2. You’ve done something or said something that was going to get people riled up over.

    3. People from rejected instances, sites .etc come here to carry over their shitty nature.

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    Why are most people here are negative and rude?

    Thank you for pointing this out. I found this place as an alternative to Reddit, but whoa, I think the hate for anyone who doesn’t join the groupthink is actually worse here than on reddit.

    I’ve actually had posters on here follow me to other communities just to downvote and talk crap about me, even if the community/subject had nothing to with their original beef about me. And they would brag about doing it!

    Never had that happen on Reddit! Of course, won’t stop me from posting, and I just think it’s hilarious. Weird though!

  • ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world
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    My theory is that for-profit social media companies push conflict and controversy because it increases “engagement.” So, people are conditioned to be hostile and hiss like a cat at the first sign of disagreement (real or imagined). Lemmy, obviously, has different incentives.

    It’s happening on Mastodon and BlueSky too. I try to respond with kindness and sincerity. (I don’t always succeed. I kind of suck at it, to be honest. But if we all even can halfass human decency, it’ll be better than most of the internet.)

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      +1 ! Need to work on my morning Lemmy scrolling… Grumpy as fuck and not being nice to people sucks :// !