For context: I habe a PC with an 8gb SSD and I somehow need to get an app on there that only has a flatpak release
Why the hell do you only have 8GB? Are you trying to install flatpaks on a smart fridge?
Sort of, actually
I was trying to build a PC just to play internet radio on using Shortwave, and a 30€ thin client with 4 1,5Ghz cores and no active cooling, 4 gigs of ram and an 8gb ssd were more than enough for that
I didn’t even know ssd’s(nuts) that small existed
Maybe it’s an eMMC chip on an embedded device?
I just want you to know, I appreciated your deez nuts joke.
It was subtle. It was well-done. Roasted, even.
For your use case, building from source might be more practical.
look into NixOS! there might already be a package for it. and NixOS can be very good about not duplicating dependencies.
I had a 200 gb ssd on my laptop and kept running out of space because all the old generations from nixos,
this? https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/Shortwave
I think on a system like that you shouldn’t even run a GUI or a window manager at most. What is the service that is actually using though, it links to this https://www.radio-browser.info/ I guess I see you can play stations directly from that. It seems it makes more sense to use like lynx browser or something to just browse that website directly.
I’ve clicked like 10 of them they are all mp3 or aac. mpv or vlc can decode those on the command line and play it with using like 15-100mb of space on your storage. Like this random station for example https://stream-uk1.radioparadise.com/aac-320
all in all your total install should be like 400mb
It is not for me personally, but for a person who wants a gui. And a Touch screen. Also I need an on Screen Keyboard because he also does not want to use a keyboard or mouse.
I tried using a very simple compositor like cage to just start shortwave, but I couldnt get my Keyboard to work since it needs gnome accessibility runtime to automatically show when clicking a text field.
And also xfce is more than light enough not to take up more than 1-2 secs of the total boot time
The flatpak thing was just the jellyfin-media-player so I can play my music from jellyfin too, but I guess ill just set up DLNA so I can stream to the device from my Phone
oh you can run the https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin-mpv-shim and then just install MPV
So maybe use Debian and compile the app yourself instead? The Dev made something free with their time, use your time to make it work for you.
and 8gb ssd? at that size it’s surely a removable 2242 ngff drive, it’s like 10$ for a 64gb one. you’re quite literally throttling your systems read/write speed, cause ssds want at least 20% free to manipulate files.
Skelly is rapidly approaching your location.
tl;dr: some applications (like Bottles) are designed to run only in sandboxed environments. Flatpak is a robust way to ensure that an application has the correct dependencies and conditions for proper functionality.
I absolutely hate all this container shit, for my uses. That said, they make sense when you need to sandbox applications for whatever reason, but most of those uses seem like they would be better served with VMs.
Storage is cheap, I don’t care at all as long as I can easily install it without having to go online to search for missing dependencies in the correct version.
My only problem with Flatpak was when I tried to install an IDE and made it use Podman or Docker and the container thingy caused problems.
“x is cheap” is not the greatest take imo. it’s cheap until you just so happen to not be able to afford it. what now? better give me an income for the price in storage. not talking about flatpak specifically.
This. Any many laptops use eMMC, meaning that you can’t just increase the OS storage.
Just build from source
Flatpak is such a cool tool, kind of sad seeing it be mainly used for barely usable bloatware like libadwaita and electron. So much unrealised potential
I refuse to use anything that only has a flatpak.
I’ll kill an entire project because there’s no other alternative.
fuck flatpak and all others like it.
What exists that is only available as a flatpak? The source should be available at least.
I’m lazy and don’t want to build from source.
I’ve already got 30 other projects I’m building from my own sources, I don’t need another.
Don’t your filesystem deduplicate it on the fly anyway?
I actually like flatpak. The only issues I have are with GTK apps which I try not to use anymore.
What after those issues?
For me trying to make GTK softwares to looks consistent with everything else is always a pain in the ass, and don’t get me started on different GTK version themes aren’t compatible with each other, so a GTK3 software doesn’t even looks the same with another GTK software just because it use GTK4.
Not using the Breeze theme even when it is applied for GTK apps. The cursor being way too big on libadwaita apps. Supposedly that last one will be fixed very soon.
what kind of app only bundles a flatpak? Surely there’s manual install instructions?
Definitely, no way the git doesn’t have info on how to build it from source or at least a Deb package download. I assume it’s people who are annoyed their distro doesn’t have that software in the repos but it’s on flathub.
Flatpaks implement deduping, so they actually don’t take that much space when installed.
I habe a PC with an 8gb SSD
I think I found your real problem.
Didn’t know about that, how exactly is that implemented?
TONS OF SAME STUFF
every time:
downloads a different version of KDE from 2014
Or alternatively… crzyshrtct was not found on your host, but is required, daddy. Please install it to be able to use the software.
