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𝕾𝖕𝖎𝖈𝖞 𝕿𝖚𝖓𝖆@lemmy.world to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish · 1 year ago

Nuclear isn't perfect, but it is the best we have right now.

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Nuclear isn't perfect, but it is the best we have right now.

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𝕾𝖕𝖎𝖈𝖞 𝕿𝖚𝖓𝖆@lemmy.world to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish · 1 year ago
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    Hi, I work in waste handling, and I would like to tell you about dangerous materials and what we do with them.

    There are whole hosts of chemicals that are extremely dangerous, but let’s stick with just cyanide, which comes from coal coking, steel making, gold mining and a dozen chemical synthesis processes.

    Just like nuclear waste, there is no solution for this. We can’t make it go away, and unlike nuclear waste, it doesn’t get less dangerous with time. So, why isn’t anyone constantly bringing up cyanide waste when talking about gold or steel or Radiopharmaceuticals? Well, that’s because we already have a solution, just not “forever”.

    Cyanide waste, and massive amounts of other hazardous materials, are simply stored in monitored facilities. Imagine a landfill wrapped in plastic and drainage, or a building or cellar with similar measures and someone just watches it. Forever. You can even do stuff like build a golfcourse on it, or malls, or whatever.

    There are tens of thousands of these facilities worldwide, and nobody gives a solitary fuck about them. It’s a system that works fine, but the second someone suggests we do the same with nuclear waste, which is actually less dangerous than a great many types of chemical waste, people freak out about it not lasting forever.

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      As a friend once said “benzene is what anti-nuclear people think nuclear waste is.”

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        I mean, spent fuel is actually quite lethal when not packaged, but you get something like 300-400MWh out of a kilo of fuel. And that’s significantly more than I’ll use in my lifetime.

        I’d gladly keep a kilo of dry-casked spent fuel in my house. It’d make an excellent coffee table or something, if a bit hard to move. I would absolutely not put a lifetime supply of benzene anywhere near my house.

        Edit: it would make a shitty coffee table. 1 kilo of uranium oxide is just under 100ml

        • YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub
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          The density of uranium always fucks with me. How can something that takes up so little volume weigh so much?

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            It’s thicc.

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              1 year ago

              phat nucleasss

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      Yeah but how is the Kremlin going to control us with their gas & oil if we have nuclear?

      Checkmate uh pro democratic people I guess?

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        Yeah but how is the Kremlin going to control us with their gas & oil if we have nuclear?

        France is EU’s first importer of ‘Russian nuclear products’: study – Euractiv

        Russian nuclear energy diplomacy and its implications for energy security in the context of the war in Ukraine | Nature Energy

        New report shows Russia raking in revenue from state nuclear company | Fox Business

        Russia faces threat of sanctions on nuclear power industry as Germany backs uranium ban – POLITICO

        Bratislava to reject EU’s latest sanctions package if it includes ban on Russia nuclear fuel

        Russia’s Rosatom Helps Putin Skirt Sanctions

        Russia’s nuclear project in Hungary: France’s growing role | OSW Centre for Eastern Studies

        https://www.greenpeace.de/publikationen/20220517-greenpeace-report-russland-taxonomie.pdf

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        They have more uranium than we do

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