Duh! I’ve been saying this on here and getting called a Nazi as a result. First, censorsing & criminalizing free speech is fasscist behavior. But it is also causes those groups to grow.
No censorship of speech has always been liberal. /s
Also its kidna funny how eastern european countries now have stronger foundations of liberal democracy than germany, since statements like “from the river to the sea” are not criminalized as antisemitic.
That’s wrong. You can criticise Israel all day long, but you may maneuver yourself into problems if you mix up the Jews (as in anti-semitic rhetoric) with the the state of Israel.
Really? I can’t remember that anybody got legally punished for criticizing Israel, but I might just not remember it. Can you provide sources for your claim?
No, you either didn’t read the article or didn’t understand it. The article doesn’t mention a single instance of what you claim.
The article is about political pressure, as I said, about accusing Israel critics of other crimes and thereby trying to shut them down. But criticizing Israel is not illegal. And that is the same as happened in USA, where protest where shut down and accused of other crimes to stop them.
I rather like that in Germany it’s a crime to deny the Holocaust. The problem is that our politicians are too cowardly to stand up towards Israel and to stupid to realize the problem with the Holocaust isn’t that jews were the main target, but rather that it happened at all.
Not at all. The things that Trump says are acceptable to the ruling class of America. Even without free speech (which the US doesn’t actually have), Trump would never be the victim of censorship laws.
exactly, free speech fundamentalism just allows freedom to abuse anyone and lie about anything
what’s happening in germany is the same playbook as in the US. use wedge issues like immigration, palestine and economic hardship to split the left and support the far right in social media spam
at least in germany you can vote constructively for a variety of parties that can create a government that effectively excludes the far right
Duh! I’ve been saying this on here and getting called a Nazi as a result. First, censorsing & criminalizing free speech is fasscist behavior. But it is also causes those groups to grow.
If you support Nazis then you literally support a party that wants to exterminate everyone else.
Hate speech isn’t covered under any free speech laws i don’t think.
Are you talking about Germany’s ban on fascist symbols and Holocaust denial?
If so, calling that “fascist behavior” is the dumbest shit I’ve heard in a while. Seriously below “what happened to the tolerant left” level.
No censorship of speech has always been liberal. /s Also its kidna funny how eastern european countries now have stronger foundations of liberal democracy than germany, since statements like “from the river to the sea” are not criminalized as antisemitic.
I believe he’s talking about Germany not allowing critique on war crimes and mass murder if perpetrated by Israel.
And that is not on a criminal level but instead on a political.
It is legally perfectly allowed to critique Israel. So the OP still would be wrong.
Actually are there are legal restrictions on critising Israel in Germany.
That’s wrong. You can criticise Israel all day long, but you may maneuver yourself into problems if you mix up the Jews (as in anti-semitic rhetoric) with the the state of Israel.
The article itself proves you wrong, but you already knew that
Really? I can’t remember that anybody got legally punished for criticizing Israel, but I might just not remember it. Can you provide sources for your claim?
You’re literally in the comment section for an article about it
No, you either didn’t read the article or didn’t understand it. The article doesn’t mention a single instance of what you claim.
The article is about political pressure, as I said, about accusing Israel critics of other crimes and thereby trying to shut them down. But criticizing Israel is not illegal. And that is the same as happened in USA, where protest where shut down and accused of other crimes to stop them.
Yes, criticising Israel is illegal as you have yourself just stated. The exact legal mechanism which the state uses does not change this.
Actually it does. If you’re just going to straight up deny verifiable reality, what’s the point in talking to you?
My brother/sister/comrade in christ, read the article this comments section is centered around.
And that is not on a criminal level but instead on a political.
It is legally allowed to critique Israel.
Free speech gave the USA Trump.
I rather like that in Germany it’s a crime to deny the Holocaust. The problem is that our politicians are too cowardly to stand up towards Israel and to stupid to realize the problem with the Holocaust isn’t that jews were the main target, but rather that it happened at all.
Not at all. The things that Trump says are acceptable to the ruling class of America. Even without free speech (which the US doesn’t actually have), Trump would never be the victim of censorship laws.
exactly, free speech fundamentalism just allows freedom to abuse anyone and lie about anything
what’s happening in germany is the same playbook as in the US. use wedge issues like immigration, palestine and economic hardship to split the left and support the far right in social media spam
at least in germany you can vote constructively for a variety of parties that can create a government that effectively excludes the far right