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    2 months ago

    If only the Linux desktop stopped getting offended when it’s not treated like a server and has to shut down. “Wait, you had audio settings that I was supposed to remember? Cool story bro…”

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        If you would like to address an audio issue, I’ll gladly hijack the thread.

        Linux mint, occasionally my audio starts crackling. Only fix is to open terminal and run pulseaudio -k.

        Happens maybe twice a day with my system.

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        I find people complaining about every distro. The thing is, every operating system sucks. The good thing about Linux is how that becomes your fault.

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            Good to note this example is from 2022-08-30. Despite its “reputation” among some, Arch doesn’t break that often by itself.

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              yeah, i’ve been running arch for a couple of years now and the only time something broke was when the computer died in the middle of updating

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          It can be your fault, but if the distro is supposed to be easy and you haven’t messed with its internals, it’s probably the distro’s fault.

          My #1 priority when choosing a distro was that it’s widely used and easy, because I don’t want to deal with that exact kind of shit.

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            Ultimately it’s all open source, you can make your own distro. If something doesn’t work, fork it and fix it yourself. That’s the beauty of Linux, with all that’s good and bad about it.

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          I mean I was asking about your complaint. Never heard of a Linux desktop that needs to be treated like a server before

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      I had this TV box that came with windows on it. After booting I had to turn up the volume and click away a noise warning.

      With Linux no more trouble 🐧

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    Remember folks, it doesn’t have to be the year, it only has to be your year.

    Mine was about 19 years ago. I’m no genius, and I haven’t regretted it once. Linux has come a long way since then, while windows is deep in the enshittification trenches now, and has been for years. Your YOTLD can start today if you want it to. Tired of being actively abused by your OS? We’ve been here all along.

    And if you are happy where you are, that’s fine too.

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    They thought it was a great idea to remove the feature to unlock the taskbar and move it to the top or side of your screen in windows 11. I don’t care if it was a design choice, it was a fucking stupid one.

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      This right here drove me to dual boot Manjaro. I can’t be the only person who has stacked monitors instead of side-by-side monitors. The UI is an abomination and the telemetry even moreso.

      Linux is not turn key, and as a significantly PC gaming user it has limitations. I still have not set up modding yet, and whether Vortex mod manager will work or not is still unclear. I can’t get more than 60Hz out of my monitor on HDMI, which is required if I want 175Hz and 10bit color due to DisplayPort 1.4 limitations. Sleep causes my motherboard to permanently display a “CPU unknown” QLED Code. Instructions on simple tasks like creating a permanent drive mount at boot are confusing because there are steps that seem to be just assumed by everyone writing them. Etc.

      I am working my way through these, but still find myself in Windows 11 most of the time because unfortunately it just works. Software is natively written for it, there is no searching for how to get peripherals or programs to work. I say this as a lifelong tech nerd who started on Windows 3.1 and DOS, and who’s job involves working with Linux based equipment. This shouldn’t be as hard as it has been to transition, but it is.

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        Honestly your situation is kind of a worse case scenario.

        At this point Linux works really well if all you want to do is browse the web and play (single player) games.

        It also works pretty well if you’re an expert who understands the system in and out and can comfortably edit any config file on their drive to achieve what they want.

        But if you’re a Windows power user whose used to being able to set up all kinds of niche functionality its a rough experience when all of your knowledge is now suddenly useless and there’s a different set of things that are easy or hard to do.

        Its actually kind of a similar experience going the other way. For example there are some things that Linux users are used to being able to script that can’t really be accomplished on Windows except via autohotkey, which from a Linux user’s perspective just seems incredibly dumb.

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      I can’t believe this is still impossible. Surely engineers at Microsoft are suffering from this too? But I guess they really want to push the search bar and ai features that don’t fit on a vertical taskbar.

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    This is going to be my Year of Linux, finally taking the plunge. Nothing special, just a used laptop running Mint to replace a Chromebook (who’s hardware has finally failed). Gonna try to replace my gaming PC next year once I’ve got more of a handle on the different distros and have played around with them (and more money).

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    When my elderly, and tech illiterate family ask how to switch from Windows; I’m sorry but I’m not telling them to use Linux because they’re going to harass me nonstop for tech support.

    At best this will be the year of macOS, because there’s a store I can send them to for all their questions.

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    Can we stop with this? It was an over hyped slogan and we can give it a rest. People are slowly switching to Linux and that’s good enough

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      The slogan is a complete meme at this point. A meme that indicates it’s the year of the linux desktop!

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        Yeah, it just comes off sarcastic to me, which apparently means people think Linux is not popular enough to talk about or something. I don’t know, it just rubs me the wrong way.

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          It is sarcastic.

          Wanna know the first time I heard “This is the Year of the Linux Desktop!”? 1999.

          Yes, nineteen ninety-nine. Twenty-five years ago.

          Linux as a desktop is still a laugh. It still doesn’t come close to Windows of twenty-five years ago.

          But it’s killer as a server, or a purpose-built system. My NAS/VM server kicks ass under Linux, way better than running windows. Even VMware recently switched their desktop virtualization to using Linux. This is where Linux shines.

          You could make a Windows killer desktop, except which distro? Which shell? Which set of base tools/utilities? Define “killer desktop” in the Linux community.

          Windows is the general purpose OS, with a common shell. That’s what MS did, settle on one UI (mostly), so it’s a common experience everywhere.

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            Linux as a desktop is still a laugh. It still doesn’t come close to Windows of twenty-five years ago.

            Pfft, several Linux distros are an excellent desktop OS and I think people who argue against that aren’t worth my time.

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              Naive take imo. No distro is an excellent desktop. They all have flaws and issues that are not present in windows to an “average user”. Regular users barely know how to install apps on their phones. To be excellent all intelligence groups should be able to easily use it

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                Naive take imo. No distro is an excellent desktop.

                Wow. Not a single one, huh? I’m sure manufacturers assuming Windows and lazily building hardware that does 90% of the work in giant closed-source drivers have nothing to do with the “flaws and issues” that ALL distros apparently have some of.

                No Linux distro I’ve run has had a necessary parent process like “explorer.exe” crash causing the PC to mysteriously stop working with no indication of what’s happening, an issue I’m still encountering in others’ Windows PCs 25 years later… or having the main (Start) menu responding to clicks/taps (changing color like it’s activated) but not opening the menu, seen that on multiple Windows machines with perfectly fine hardware. Maybe it was too busy loading unwanted, unsolicited ads into the Start menu to do its job.

                The “average user” will either pay a not-insignificant amount of money to fix issues or throw away still-good hardware and buy new every 3-5 years, at which point they will still need help backing up and restoring their data unless they are sending it all to Microsoft cloud who is training “AI” with it for profit. Environmentally and financially taxing but I guess I can’t complain; more free/dirt-cheap Linux boxes for my friends and family!

                Edit: My wife and son are gaming on up-to-date OSes on PCs that are old enough to drive a car. Truth be told, my son has a slightly newer video card than that, though. Energy use is becoming a concern although it’s not really wasted when we need to heat the house six or seven months out of the year where we are.

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                When people say shit like this, they seem to forget the vast amounts of issues that windows also has. How long has it been since the last time an update bricked millions of machines? Even when you only talk about things MS is directly responsible for, that timespan rarely exceeds a year. And this is even with their enormous budget and army of vendors essentially beta testing and partnering with them to keep shit like that from happening.

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          I guess the hope is that a large amount of people will suddenly switch to Linux, maybe because of social media popularity, a breaking windows change, or maybe a popular computer manufacturer shipping only Linux by default.

          But even if that does happen, I would think it would result in an increased adoption rate, not everyone switching to Linux over the course of a year.

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            You can, but Linux needs good press, and many would see this “joke” as another reason to avoid the whole ecosystem.

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                That’s not true. Attitudes can slowly change over time. Reminding people “it’s not there yet” doesn’t serve that.

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            I’ll have you know I’m completely serious and not poking fun at myself when I mention I use Arch, BTW!

            I think the year of Linux memes are fun. :D

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      While we’re at it, can we stop with “enshittification?” It’s Reddit and Lemmy’s favorite word. Such a dumb term.

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      what’s “ate”? edit: oh it’s just a type for “are” isn’t it

      i would recommend getting an extra ssd, installing a beginner friendly distro (mint or pop for instance) and just boot it up occasionally, see what works, what doesn’t. i got into linux like this, gradually, over years

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        Oh I didn’t even see that typo.

        But yeah I’ve tried this and I just found my self booting less and less into Linux, to me it made more sense to just keep my PC on once I’m done playing, or alt tab out and work on other stuff with the game running in the background.

        However this old MMO is getting a unreal update sometime in the next few years so I’ll probably give it a try again and see if it’s able to run once that comes around.

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          idk which mmo it is but i would assume an older engine runs more reliably on linux than a new one

          actually, for me, trying and failing to run star wars republic commando a few years ago on win 10 was what pushed me to really look into gaming on linux, and after installing it via steam, enabling steam play, i just clicked play and it ran great, i was shocked
          and you can add any windows executable to steam (although it’s a bit janky), enable compatibility, and most of the times, stuff just runs
          heroic launcher also is great, but a bit more complicated

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      Chicken and egg. Can’t have the gamers without games and games without the gamers. Valve and the steam deck might have changed that. Even if small, if that portion of 0.0x percent of the market buy games and it is enough to offset the developing costs to port the game, companies will do it since it will make business sense.

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    These threads are always hilarious. People are not switching to any kind of desktop. They are moving away from PCs entirely. There is an entire population who only use a phone as their computer.

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    Lain is what prompted me to switch to Linux! Watching a character who doesn’t yet understand computers fuck around with a computer really inspired me to fuck around with my computer

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    why doesn’t everybody understand that it’s ALWAYS the year of the linux desktop, you just haven’t been invited yet, that’s the only problem.

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    I am mid switch, but it’s not been smooth or easy. I chose Manjaro and maybe I chose poorly. I am a lifelong techie, and have used Ubuntu and Mint in short stints in the past, but the transition is rough.

    I didn’t attempt the switch before because I primarily played Destiny 2 and Bungie hates Linux. The enshittification of Destiny drove me away, and in theory the games I am playing now should work. I have had mixed results however.

    I play Darktide and Vermintide 2 and heavily use their modding scenes to make them fully playable. Vortex mod manager is a huge bonus for this, and I still haven’t been able to set this up.

    My Elgato equipment has community support, but has a bunch of steps to get working that I haven’t spent the time to fully research or attempt.

    I still haven’t set up an automatic mount point for my shared NTFS drive to load on boot, both because I don’t have a good grasp on the fstab and because Windows does a chkdisk every time I mount it in Linux. Dual access storage still seems iffy as of 2025.

    I am going to keep trying, because I hate Microsoft right now more than I dislike the learning curve and limitations. Not sure if that is enough to make this the year of the Linux desktop though.

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        There’s the rub. Every distro has vocal supporters and detractors, and appears simultaneously good or “dog shit”. Determining who is accurate is a crapshoot, and there apparently is no right answer. Manjaro was attractive because of built-in automatic snapshots for recovery when I inevitably break my installation. There was also previously a well reviewed gaming focused Manjaro fork, though I stuck with the main fork.

        Mint had just as vocal of detractors saying it was unstable. Same with Ubuntu and I dislike the company focus anyway. Arch is Arch, and Manjaro is an Arch fork anyway. It’s the same problem someone looking at starting One Piece or Bleach or Naruto have: there is too much and even the fans appear to hate it more than anyone else, lol.

        I don’t want to distro hop, that doesn’t interest me at my current stage. I want long term (at least a year) in between reinstallations. More self hosting is lined up for the future, so desktop is dipping my toes in the water as my server is piecemealed together.

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          Anyone who says Mint is unstable doesn’t know what they’re talking about. Mint is great if you just want to install and forget. Any rolling release distro will always require more effort to keep it running. Mint updates are largely painless.

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      I still haven’t set up an automatic mount point for my shared NTFS drive to load on boot, both because I don’t have a good grasp on the fstab and because Windows does a chkdisk every time I mount it in Linux. Dual access storage still seems iffy as of 2025.

      i’ve been fine mounting my C drive under linux using ntfs3g under arch linux (similar enough to manjaro) though this was prior to ntfs being natively supported in the kernel, so that may have different consequences, realistically i would advise you to use a network storage for inter device compat since you can run samba or something, which is well integrated into linux and windows (though it’s a little fucky in linux, it does work, and it works reliably) It makes life so much easier. Either that or use an external drive that you intend to be intercompat, not running NTFS, but using ext4 or something. That’s another decent option.

      My best advice to you going forward is be thoughtful about the devices and software you spend time and money on, it’s really easy when you’re in the windows environment to just use whatever exists, but on linux you do have to spend a bit more time thinking about it, but that’s just the nature of the beast.

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      One thing about Linux: don’t let people bully you over which distro you use. This isn’t a competition, use what feels most natural to you. If Manjaro is too steep of a curve, start somewhere else. Not everyone needs to be running arch. If you want to use arch but want it easier, I had an easier time with endeavor os than with manjaro, but ymmv. If I were you, I’d use the easiest distro out there: mint. If you are a big gamer, PopOS has a lot of gaming support right out of the box, but these days if you are primarily on Steam then you shouldn’t hit too many issues in any distro.

      I am also mid transition, but haven’t booted windows in over a year. I tried dual-access storage, and I think your best bet is to keep the two systems separate. There are ways to make it work, but they are not beginner friendly imo.

      As for mods, it is really hit or miss. And kernel level anticheat is a blocker in Linux, so any games that require it will not be playable. But what I do is have a single-drive windows machine that has the software that doesn’t have Linux support installed, and boot into it when I need it. But I’ve actually found linux-friendly replacements for all the stuff I personally use, and will probably never touch the windows system again.