• BassTurd@lemmy.world
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    If you’ve got the drive to learn, there’s no better way to learn than by doing, and there’s a lot of doing in Arch, especially on your first couple of installs. Welcome to the club.

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    This is how I feel a lot of times. But I did at least have the sense to go for Endeavour rather than straight to Arch (and prior to that, Manjaro and Ubuntu).

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    After over a decade of using it exclusively at home and partially at work I still googled how to add users to a group last week.

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      Well yeah. You barely use groups on a personal machine - maybe once and done for audio and VMs, depending on what distro you use - and at work you’d automate that shit, probably have it centralised.

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      I try to remember commands backwards by how they look(<command> <flags> <arguments>), if they are short, have capital letters and so on… Is that weird? If I give up I open the history file or my good ol’ cheat sheet.

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          I did use it but the only real benefit for me as a hobbyist was the git status indicator on the prompt and the easy to configure prompt. The rest of the indicators did not help me since I’m not a developer. Now I just have my custom prompt with colors, and custom git info.

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            But it autocompletes pretty well, isn’t it? 🤔or was it fish doing that

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              I quite sure fish has it, but I use zsh without autocompletions, I just press tab until I find what I need. And the fzf history shortcuts for the rest.

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              Fish does history autocomplete, not Starship — you still have autocomplete using unconfigured Fish, and you don’t get autocompletion by enabling Starship for other shells.

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          Oh. My. Word.

          I thought I was clever by using history | grep <bit of command I remember>

          I KNEW there had to be a better way!

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    I just use Linux mint because it looks nice and is user friendly and I’m mostly Linux illiterate. But I’m learning between that and SteamOS on my steam deck.

    No shame in it.

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      Three steps for me.

      1. Linux on a laptop
      2. Dual boot on my main pc.
      3. Full switch done in spite after windows nuked my linux partition.
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        My steps:

        1. Think about dual-booting
        2. Try to install Nobara as dual-boot
        3. Fuck up Windows install
        4. Too lazy to reinstall Windows 5.???
        5. Now own Steam Deck, have old ThinkPad and PC running Fedora
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        Haha nice! Similar journey! My step 3 was when Win10 kept BSODing my games, and then being more subtly broken when I booted it up.

        “Okay, I’ll just ‘refresh this PC’.” I said.

        “Can’t.” Said Win10.

        “Why not?” Says I.

        “Lol-idk” says Win10 with an indifferent shrug.

        OpenSUSE Tumbleweed runs all my creative artwork tasks AND all my games run beautifully. Just pointed Steam to the folder and it handled everything automagically.

        Game doesn’t crash anymore on the same hardware, BTW.

        Tumbleweed my beloved. ❤️

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        Not dissimilar - my three steps.

        1. Ran away from vista.
        2. Get a job at Microsoft and figured I should learn how to use a core product again (Windows 10).
        3. Dual boot for years (you never know when you will need to wake up the windows for some random task), until Win 11 and recall…
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      Me too. My final reason to not go back to windows was that I realized I didn’t actually really care for the games I played with restrictive anti cheat and was only playing them because they were popular.

      Now I just play games that I consciously acknowledge I’m enjoying playing, and that has been great for mental health as well.

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      I’ve been playing with Linux for almost 20 years and only wiped my windows partition maybe 2 years ago. I figured I can run a windows VM on my Proxmox rig, but I haven’t had the need to yet (probably helps that I’m not big into gaming).

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        Stackx might not be the best place for Linux help. Can be a pretty unforgiving place.

        Lemmy is a lot more friendly and people will try to help you out, even if you don’t know what your doing.

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    We are not all devs/sysadmins. For a long time thought I didn’t really know what I was doing, until one day someone had an issue running an old game and I looked at the error and could tell them how to fix it by editing the launch script.

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      Last Sunday I groggily ran an update on my EOS install, which promptly borked Plasma. Rolled back via timeshift which then destroyed my bootloader. Fired up a live USB, reinstalled the bootloader, peace was restored to the galaxy.

      I’ll be honest, the existential dread of losing a sunday to reinstalling my system was at the forefront of my mind most of the morning, but the sweet relief of booting into my system after all was said and done was fantastic.

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        Been using Linux for several decades now. I’ve always been able to throw in a floppy or a CD, or now a thumbdrive and just boot up and easily fix what’s wrong. Plus it’s rare to even have to do that. The times I’ve used Windows, when things go wrong, if it’s not a simple fix, best you can do is format and reinstall. I have friends who are so numb to that. But they figure, they might as well since they’ll just have have to format Windows and reinstall anyways because, Windows gets slower over time. I have one friend who had it on his calendar to just monthly reinstall Windows. I’ve never once thought, wow Linux is getting slow, let me format and reinstall. I mean, how can that even be an acceptable solution to anybody. Sure, if things just went sideways so badly and everything is corrupted, but that would be one hell of an extreme exception.

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      Congratulations. Your a system admin. For real.

      I’ve interviewed candidates for system admin jobs who had less exposure to managing Linux then this story.

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      Bazzite is so good, especially on the Steam Deck. I did run with Arch for awhile, but ended up switching back to Bazzite when I realized that all I ended up doing was recreating Bazzite in Arch. KDE 6 with all the gaming essentials pre-configured is just so nice.

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    Honestly I’m gonna go against what people usually say and say that Arch is better to start with than Ubuntu, as long as you’re not afraid of command line or editing txt files. Whether it’s Arch or Ubuntu, as a noob you’re going to be doing a lot of wiki reading and copying and pasting of commands.

    Personally though, a big difference between the two I found is that after a couple of years of copying and pasting commands in Ubuntu, I still didn’t really understand anything about how Linux works behind the scenes. Whereas Arch had me feeling like I too could be a sysadmin, if I felt like it, within a week.

    And maybe things are different these days with Ubuntu, it’s been a few years, but I find that Arch has a way more enthusiastic and helpful user base. And the Arch wiki is practically a bible. Whereas searching for problems and solutions in Ubuntu can feel a bit like searching for problems and solutions in Windows, where you’ll probably get copy pasted generic solutions or someone telling you to restart your PC.

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      Arch as a first distro is an interesting choice.

      But likely fr better than my first distro, Slackware.

      I had known about the Church of the Subgenius and then heard that there was a Linux distro based on that…

      At the time, the wikis were not really up to the task…

      These days I run Mint on my writing laptop, and unfortunately am back to Windows on my gaming rig.

      But might swap back to Gaurda for gaming…

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      I agree with you for a hobby OS. Like if somebody wants to learn and knows generally how to back up what they don’t want to lose, Arch is invaluable! I’m currently enjoying EndeavourOS on my gaming laptop for how newb-friendly the community is.

      If someone just wants a working machine that allows them to dabble if they’re feeling it, Mint is good for that. Not everyone’s gotta be a sysadmin right?

      I personally feel like OpenSUSE Tumbleweed is a great balance though.

      It works, yet it rolls, and you can still mess around if you want. Although it’s sometimes frustrating when it does things differently than Arch or Ubuntu and the advice is scant… But I guess that’s it’s own learning experience!

      I occasionally make a project out of learning things like compiling software, but it doesn’t demand too much maintenance when I just need to get stuff done.