With the recent happenings in the United States, the dangers of the privately owned Internet is more apparent than ever, and frankly, it’s scary. And so I’d like to make a simple request to anyone who is reading this; Please use the Fediverse, just a little more.
I personally hate it when I’m stuck having to visit say, YouTube or Reddit to get information, or to entertain myself in quiet moments, and if you’re reading this, the likely chance is you’re the same.
All I want to ask of you is to just comment a few more times, press send on that post that you felt wasn’t of enough substance to be worth anyone’s time. We have such a small community compared to everywhere else, but what we do have in common is that, in the grand scheme of things, we are the early adopters. And if we take that to heart and make this space a little bigger, maybe it will be just big enough we won’t have to visit walled gardens so often.
Thank you :)
Hello
I’ve always been a lurker, but I started being active on Fedi, and I like it!
hoping to join you there, friend
Unexpected !dundermifflin@lemm.ee
I’m a fediverse supporter (obviously, that’s why I’m here), however what you’re looking for requires a critical mass of users that the fediverse (at least the Lemmy side of it) will never achieve as long as two very critical problems persist:
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sign up is confusing. People are used to clicking “create an account,” inputting a user name, password, and maybe an email, and then BAM they’re a user. I realize the whole instance thing is the entire point, but no one wants nor expects to have to do significant research and make a decision about how they want to interact with a social media site before they’ve even started using it.
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the site (or at least lemmy.world) is sooo slooow. Basic functions like loading images take me back to the dial-up era of “click the image then do something else while it loads,” which is downright ridiculous in the 2020s. Again I’ve stuck with it because I want to support the fediverse, but 99% of users won’t.
And no, these aren’t “features not bugs” unless you want to keep the site small and homogenous.
Try another server. I use r.nf and it’s very fast. Decentralisation is pointless if everyone flocks to the same server.
If people want freedom and independence, they’re going to have to a little work for it, because those things never come for free. And yes, that is a feature, not a bug. That “I should not ever have to engage my grey matter” mentality is the whole cause of the corporate fascist mess in the first place.
I honestly don’t understand point 1. no matter how much people say it.
Maybe I’m naive because it wasn’t confusing to me personally, but it is only one extra step to create an account. When people explain the Fediverse to new people they compare it to e-mail anyway, which basically has the exact same sign-up structure. The only difference to me is the way it is advertised. Nobody in general says “you need to join e-mail”, it’s usually “join GMail” or “join Yahoo”. I don’t know how it would be solved without detracting from the “choose the instance that is right for you” experience though, since the instances with the most support and funding will obviously hold the most influence (as we currently see with lemmy.world and lemmy.ml, not to mention pixelfed.social).
IDK maybe I’m wrong, lmk, but I don’t think choosing an instance is all the friction it’s said to be.
The big instances are definitely slower though.
Nobody in general says “you need to join e-mail”, it’s usually “join GMail” or “join Yahoo”. I don’t know how it would be solved without detracting from the “choose the instance that is right for you” experience though
No I think you’re right, give them an instance. They won’t have enough knowledge to choose an instance anyways. If they don’t like the one you gave them then they can move later.
I think you’re drastically underestimating how even small steps like that can tune a ton of people out. If they’re only sort of on the fence about it it might be enough to make it not worth it. Or maybe they’ll think they’ll check later but never get around to it.
You’re probably right tbh
Me too. I don’t get how people can’t get past the choosing a server and I’m not a techie. Like have you ever played a video game and had to join a server? It’s not that complicated! Lol. People are such lame giver uppers.
I was confused by #1 before I got a grasp of Lemmy then I realized lemmy.world is the largest instance and I can just sign up here.
but no one wants nor expects to have to do significant research and make a decision about how they want to interact with a social media site before they’ve even started using it.
Then just directly recommend specific, general purpose instances to people.
Blaze has put in a ton of work simplifying the former, and while the latter isn’t strictly only related to Lemmy.world, many other servers are much faster.
e.g. click on https://discuss.online/, see how it shows All (rather than Local) by default (that’s an issue with some), and Active. Click posts, see how fast images load, read the pinned posts and imagine how quickly the admin responds.
THEN if someone likes it, join. Many Redditors are in the USA, where discuss.online is also, so it’s a great match.
There are other instances, but showcasing that one is a great way to help guide people to what Lemmy is all about.
I agree with you on 1. I hope it never fucking changes. The worst thing that could happen is we get the critical mass of dipshits that turns every online service into a fucking shit tornado.
possibly the biggest eye opener has been seeing how much the average person knows about computers, it’s seriously hard to comprehend that divide (obligatory xkcd; https://xkcd.com/2501/), I think the best we can do is build a community, and give the loved ones in our lives an onboarding experience where we can. learning anything new is intimidating, but through exposure, it can be done, we’ve just gotta make it worth it.
sign up is confusing.
"Lemmy has 42k monthly active users
- https://discuss.online/ if you want a server located in the USA (content is still accessible from any server, the most difference latency)
- https://sopuli.xyz/ if you want a server located in the EU
- https://vger.app/ if you want an app
Feel free if you have any questions"
Further discussion on https://lemmy.world/post/24577309
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Just wanted to pop in and say, I am so glad so many of you are taking this to heart! I am sitting here with a genuine smile on my face, which for reference NEVER happens. Thank you everyone!
Make a nice poster that encourages people to not just lurk, or dig one up if there’s an old post. Post it weekly in !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world
I think I just might!
Hello,
Feel free to join !casualconversation@lemm.ee !
A set of relaxed communities: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/20504960
just hopped into a few, thanks for the recommendations!
Happy to help!
I am trying to. I just found about lemmy today.
Can someone recommend me some other stuff?
is Loops out now? I was wondering when that’d come around.
It’s been out for a while. And to quote Blaze
!loops@midwest.social could definitely benefit from some nice reposts!
There’s only one person posting there, I think it’s the mod. I’m sure they’d appreciate some support.
Never got very into short-form content, but I’ll give it some consideration!
Me neither, but when I’m scrolling some videos look interesting.
Apparently the official app was released out of beta recently if I’m not mistaken.
Despite my seniority around these parts (first started an interest in lemmy around 2022) I’m not too tied into the community around here. I’d reccomend just subscribing to some interesting large communities, communities around your interests and whatever community would be best for whatever pops into your mind! If you’d like, feel free to message me and we can throw around ideas of what could be right for you!
Recommend Lemmy communities, or other Fediverse alternatives (like Mastodon as a replacement for Twitter, the same way Lemmy replaces Reddit)?
yes and I don’t mind you can mention other Fediverse alternatives
I run a few history communities myself
!historyartifacts@lemmy.world to share or admire pieces of the past - swords, armor, jewelry, or pieces of everyday life
!historyporn@lemmy.world for photographs of the past (or film)
!historyillustrations@lemmy.world for drawings and the sort of the past
!historyruins@lemmy.world for photos of old ruins, if you enjoy seeing such things
And a few history meme communities with them
!historymemes@lemmy.world for memes about history of all sorts, no restrictions!
!roughromanmemes@lemmy.world for memes about the GLORIOUS ROMAN EMPIRE
!shermanposting@lemmy.world for posts about the US Civil War and how slaver scum deserved their defeat
More generally, there’s:
!adhd@lemmy.dbzer0.com for memes about ADHD and related disorders. A lot of comorbidity there.
!animearmor@lemm.ee for anime pics of cool weapons and armor
!askhistorians@lemmy.world if you have any questions on random bits of history you’ve been wondering about
!baldurs_gate_3@lemmy.world for the ever-popular video game Baldur’s Gate 3
!dogs@lemmy.world for pics of your own dogs or random dogs you’ve found online. Precious creatures!
!cat@lemmy.world for the same, but for cats
!forgottenweapons@lemmy.world if you like old or obscure firearms
!lotrmemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com for Lord of the Rings memes
!lemmybewholesome@lemmy.world if you want some wholesome posts to take your mind off things or brighten your day.
!militarymoe@ani.social if you like anime girls in uniform
!noncredibledefense@lemmy.world or !noncredibledefense@sh.itjust.works for tongue-in-cheek militaria shitposting
!soulslike@lemmy.zip for talk about Dark Souls, Bloodborne, Elden Ring, etc
!wlw_memes@lemmy.world for memes by/about/for girls who love girls
!rpgmemes@ttrpg.network for memes about tabletop RPGs like Dungeons and Dragons
!memes@lemmy.world or !memes@sopuli.xyz for memes in general (not much difference between the communities, just whichever you prefer - or both)
!grimdank@lemmy.world for Warhammer/40K memes or memes about similar tabletop games
!196@lemmy.world for random posts that don’t go anywhere else. Just put ‘rule’ in the title - as the ‘rule’ is that you must post before you leave!
Nice list
Ok. I’ll start commenting more literally right now.
I’m in, lets this be my late new year resolution
maybe this can make up for me not making one this year haha
I’m ADHDing as hard as I can already bro
infodump harder
A lot of times I’ll write out a comment and end up deleting it. Most times it’s because I feel like it’s something that’s already been said or not worth reading but I’ll try to be less of a lurker.
I’m in the exact same boat. But I kind of realized, if I want to see a bigger fediverse, I’ll have to help build it up. As the classic saying goes, you can lead a horse to water; but first there’s gotta be water. So thank you for taking up the cause of building this lake :)
actually i don’t think that’s the saying
Well it is now that you opened the spigot
wish I could upvote this a thousand times
learn to bot, the enshittification of lemmy begins with you!
Reddit prob got big because they used bots to fudge their upvote numbers to make their site look more active than it is, I’m saying this with no evidence lol
Since all this shit started happening I’ve deleted all the social media apps on my phone and I’ve started using lemmy more. Gonna switch my YouTube shit over to peertube when I can.
Intending to actually delete my accounts in the coming weeks too. Bye bye, 13 year old reddit account. Nobody gonna miss ya.
Tbf I have been using Nebula a lot since I signed up pretty cheaply and I enjoy it. It’s owned by the creators. Found it through Jacob Geller.
Bye bye, 13 year old reddit account.
don’t forget to delete your comments there!
I mean if the account is deleted it’s no longer tied (to the puboic at least), and I’m not about to fool myself into thinking my internet use is actually secure.
During the API exodus a lot of us deleted our comments bc we didn’t like the fact that Reddit was monetizing the knowledge we had created. Some people argued that it was better that the knowledge remain out there. Either way is cool I guess.
That’s understandable! I’ll consider this when I go to delete my account. Thank you for that info!
YouTube is a bit of an issue as unlike the others there’s a lot of content and information you can’t get elsewhere.
I’ve been considering using a proxy to scrape and download subscriptions and add them to a personal server. Probably not practical to do for everything though with how much space that would be.
At the very least see if there’s a wrapper that can strip out a lot of content and just show the stuff I want to watch VS all the nonsense they fire at you.
I’ve heard good things about Nebula, and I’m hoping to get an account when I’ve saved enough
What is peoples opinions on reposting. Sometimes i see a cool video from a creator i like and i want to repost it to loops but i feel like im stealing and reuploading their work. I think reposting to lemmy is fine since its a link aggregation site first.
!loops@midwest.social could definitely benefit from some nice reposts!
If anyone can help, what’s the “shit just works” pixelfed version? I joined the biggest one but don’t want to give one instance too much power.
I tried to join the 5th or 6th largest but the buttons to sign up wouldn’t work :(I’ve started explaining this to non-techies. Hopefully starting to gain a little traction as the meta/ticktock machine becomes more and more egregious. Also this is speeding up the homelab I’m building.
I’d add the appropriate meme but I’m new here.
I’m doing my part .gif