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      4 hours ago

      It’s like saying “people share photos and videos all the time on Twitter. What is the difference with Instagram?”

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        Yes. No transcoding, but that’s actually a feature as far as I’m concerned.

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      Everything on Fedi is just different interfaces and perf from the user perspective.

      People want to continue to use something close to Instagram, Facebook, Reddit, Twitter but not be locked to their enshitified companies who decide what they get to see.

      Many that come over find out there’s no algorithm and that they have to follow people to get any content, they find they miss the doom scroll and go straight back.

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      Better UI and a better discover page mainly. Plus it’s gotten a lot of organic advertising just from luck and people talking about it, and no obvious competitor like Bluesky

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      Yeah but pixelfed is coming out with loops, it’s been on beta for awhile, that is basically Tik Tok with no ads or government/big tech ownership. I personally feel like that could have taken a giant chunk of the Tik Tok users and kept them from having to learn to read ideograms to access content they wanted. I don’t personally use that format of social media but I tried it on Android and it looks just like Tik Tok looked that I have seen on others devices.

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        The only reason why no company could take over TikTok is their algorithm, its the worst yet the best part of the app, since you only see stuff you like, without having to search for similar accounts. I’ve been feeling lonely on the Fedi compared to other socials

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          Yeah, discoverability is work on Fedi, unfortunately most people would rather consume algo content from a bad source then work to find good people to follow.

          Everything is open, I suspect if we REALLY wanted to we could make an indexing service to help surface content based on preferences, but then that’s a high value target for corporate America to farm. Also it would be pretty expensive to pay for it :)

      • ✺roguetrick✺@lemmy.world
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        I just can’t imagine who will pay for that sort of reach. It’s incredibly expensive for self hosting operations like TikTok. I’d imagine it’d be outrageous without a CDN.

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          I’d imagine it’d be outrageous without a CDN.

          The idea is you’d have dozens or hundreds of people hosting loops and they’d each spread the cost among them and get funded by followers and philanthropists. Most lemmy instances use CDN, but it’s nowhere near as heavy media-wise.

          You could also go the Peertube route and have the client share what you’re watching with other people torrent style.

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    One question, does LBRY (The protocol powering Odysee) count as something Federated ?

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      There was a github request to integrate lbry into fedi, but it never gained any traction.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse#/media/File:A_view_into_the_Fediverse.png

      So, no, they’re not in the fediverse and don’t interconnect with the other players.

      Here are the current places that play well together.

      Odysee had a shot at making it bigger than it was, but it’s really drowning in bad (moral and qualty) content. They never really recovered from their crypto scheme, once the SEC started looking into them, they got screwed. I’m down with the idea of paying creators in crypto, but they were selling it as a security.

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      Does Odysee even use LBRY anymore? They abandoned the desktop app a while ago and I’m not sure how else you can use the protocol

      (if so, then assuming everything is on Odysee then it’s about as federated as Bluesky)

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    My feed on Pixelfed is way better the second week, now that I’ve followed a couple dozen folks and put some posts out there.

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      They need some starter packs like BlueSky because all I’m seeing are some art photography highly likely ai generated - and I have no idea where to find content that has any value. On searching the hashtags I’m getting mastodon posts containing links that can’t be clicked.

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        I thought that my first couple of days, but TBH, I actually really like that Fedi social media is completely self-directed. Not having the Jack Dorseys, Donald Trumps, and Zuckerbergs of the world vomiting content or stupid ads onto my feed is well worth the modicum of extra effort.

        I found half of the people I’m following just by posting a picture of my dog and tagging it #CuteAnimals, and that got a nice response. I do follow a few hashtags and found follows there, but I will probably take them off once I’m up to 30-40 follows and I like my feed.

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      Yes and the same developer does Loops, the TikTok “equivalent”

      Not sure when he sleeps

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      Yes.

      -Instagram has pixelfed. -Reddit has lemmy -X has Mastodon/Misskey/Pleroma (&forks…) -Tiktok has loops (app still super rough around the edges and sadly on limited to one instance rather than having its own software from what i understand) -Youtube has peertube (so far the least used i think)

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          Microblogging is covered by Mastodon and Pleroma. People there could easily use them for the same content. There are a ton of options to crosspost tumblr to Mastodon.

          The biggest problem is discovery on Tumblr is a LOT easier than Mastodon, you have to advertise and advocate for yourself

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            lmao. Bot got drag to make an account and tried to teach drag, and drag still doesn’t get it either. Bot can explain.

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        I dont understand how to join or post on peertube, its the most confusing, do you host your own, is there a feed of all the servers?

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          You just pick an instance and join it, sadly i don’t think it has enough federation yet so its entirely possible u just chose a bad instance and have amazing creators sitting on other instances yours isn’t federated with

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            8 hours ago

            If you f up and join lemmy.dbzero you wont see any posts from lemmyworld users and the same issue if you join the other

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              That’s actually not true. Lemmy.world and lemmy.dbzer0.com are fully federated, you can see for yourself if you check the instances tab.

              The only thing that people incessantly complain about is that lemmy.world blocked one single community from dbzer0, the piracy community. For an account on lemmy.dbzer0, that has absolutely no effect. For an account on lemmy.world, that just means they need an alt if they want to participate in that one community. They two userbases can still fully interact all over lemmy, it’s just that lemmy.world decided to block the piracy community to cover their asses legally.

              Look, here’s https://lemmy.world/c/adhd@lemmy.dbzer0.com

              But people make such a big deal about that one blocked community that a lot of people get the idea that they are defederated or something. You’re not the first person I’ve had to correct about this, not even the first this week lol.

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        I can’t wait for peertube to take off. I think of all of the social medias, youtube has the most enduring monopoly, because hosting is such a huge barrier it’s got even more of a natural monopoly than regular social media.

        I think once peertube can start ascending that might be the ballgame for decentralised social media in general.

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          Does peertube have monetization for creator’s? Because that’s how you get content that most people watch.

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            Honestly youtube barely has it currently. The vast majority of creators make very little on the platform and rely largely on supporter donations, merch and sponsorships, which could work on any platform.

            By squeezing creators out of every penny they can, youtube has forced people to find other options abd made themselves less and less relevant. I guess that’s enshittification for you.

            You can also gate access to certain videos on peertube, so a nebula-like model might also work eventually.

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              I’m genuinely confused. Is YouTube even profitable ATP? Hard to imagine it not being so but they’ve been doubling down on squeezing out every coin they can, trying to fight adblock is one example, pushing out more ads too. Wtf even is going on over there.

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                Different metrics on profitability. Are you judging their hosting costs on how much it actually costs Google to add more in their already existing data centers for YouTube like a good vertically integrated monopoly or are you judging their hosting costs on how much their google cloud bill would be. You’ll get wildly different numbers depending on the method.

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          Exactly!! YouTube is by far the best “social” platform (or least shit) and sadly the strongest monopoly. Cus what the fuck is a newly made competitor gonna do? Rip all YouTube videos and host them? People on IG and X etc don’t really go around looking at old posts, those places are more for looking at what’s new and such. On YouTube however its entirely game that u find a dope edutainment video from years ago that you happen to vibe with.

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            That is very true, and I think some kind of archive is going to be important eventually. I think to get around the hosting costs, one method could be for peertube instances to form a union of instances for collective purchases, because the cost goes down with scale.

            With a large enough group you could even split hosting among different providers to prevent a monopoly from forming in the hosting space.

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      Yesterday I revived my old Pixelfed account, and I have set myself a challenge, upload one photo every day for a month.

      I have plenty of photos from the last decade to pick from

      I don’t know if this will mean that my account will be active in the long run, but I’ll give it an honest try.

      I posted this earlier in the thread:

      https://pxlmo.com/p/stoy/787786012092436062

      @stoy@pxlmo.com

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      you’re comparing apples to oranges. Lemmy is for discussions pixelfed is for posting photos.

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      I mean people like mastodon and it’s full of the same takes. But on mastodon if you post a pro capitalist post to your timeline, people just ignore. Unlike on Lemmy where you have to post it on a post that’s likely to garner a response