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(cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/21522265)
A group of people including Drew DeVault are trying to cancel RMS again, basing their claims on ancient misinterpreted quotes. Stallman may be controversial, but these activists are just acid for the entire Free Software movement.
Primary sources documenting Stallman’s political advocacy for: The normalization of sexual relations between adults and minors [1] Defense of individuals both accused and convicted of sexual crimes, including the rape of minors, sexual assault, and sexual harassment [2] Dismissal of legal norms regarding sexual assault [3] Dismissal of legal norms regarding sexual harassment [4] Support for the possession of child sexual abuse material [5] Legal and social normalization of sex between humans and animals [6] Legal and social normalization of sex with corpses (necrophilia) [7] Credible allegations of sexual misconduct regarding Stallman [8] Misconduct of the Free Software Foundation board of directors [9] Calls from the free software community for Stallman’s removal [10] Recommendations for reconciliation and closure [11]
fuck him, and fuck you for defending this useless waste of flesh
Most if not all of that has been debunked https://stallmansupport.org/debunking-false-accusations-against-richard-stallman.html
forgot to add this from 2017
A national campaign seeks to make all US states prohibit sex between humans and nonhuman animals.
This campaign seems to be sheer bull-headed prudery, using the perverse assumption that sex between a human and an animal hurts the animal. That’s true for some ways of having sex, and false for others.
I won’t even bother to see/hear what this guys is babbling, because I never understood how people can watch a guy like this. DT has never shown anything new, innovative or even knew how to say sorry when he made mistakes, so it’s another shitfluencer of our era.
And supporting RMS makes him more shit than he ever was.
It’s a guy babbling about an anonymous website with the same-old stuff against Stallman, and how that is part of a conspiracy to harm free software.
I watched it (most of it) despite having formed my opinion on the quality of that DistroTube channel a while ago… you might want to be wiser than me and do something else with your time.
PS:
Before you put me in the pro-Stallman faction, let me clarify that I think the FSE (non the FSFe - BTW you should change your name guys) is largely irrelevant and so I’ve never investigated the allegations to Stallman enough to take a stance pro or against: I do not care.
I was concerned when I saw Lunduke report on finding out Drew (very likely) hosts the Stallman report. (All while alluding to previous ““attacks”” on Hyprland and NixOS)
Of course DistroTube has to make an even worse video about it.
Just an advice for you, OP: Lemmy hates DT and RMS quite a lot. Post about it somewhere else if you don’t want active hate coming to your side.
This banning culture of hate is ridiculous, you can disagree with someone, or even just ideas, but procuring “canceling” and “banning” to everything we don’t agree is crazy. This mono culture of hate really saddens me. But perhaps you’re right on your appreciation.
Some of these periodical rebirths of the debate about RMS, what are really looking for is discredit on the Free software, which is not the same as open source software. Drew is one of those, if I’m not mistaken because his blog is prolific, who believe free software has no hope, and the total triumph of open source, which in practice is correct, but ethically I’m not so sure. We should be aware of what’s behind all these attacks, and I believe it’s naive to think these attacks are just about RMS. Free software is ethical in the sense of the freedoms it seeks for the users, but that has no place on enterprises and corporations, open source has enjoyed a different fate because it’s not as strict on respecting those freedoms, which under enterprises and corporations are believed to be too restrictive and against their interests. And here we are over and over attacking the organizations (yes, the FSF is attacked not only because RMS is part of it, it was founded by him as well) and people defending those principles, because in the end our minds tend to disqualify everything way too easily, made easy with this banning culture of hate. I’ve read about how useless it is the FSF, and also about how useless it is the copyleft, and these recurrent intend to discredit the one who started all that of course discredits what came from him, one way or another. I wish I’m wrong on this, and that there was no pun intended towards free software…
The original post was most probably included into the wrong community for sure BTW, this is an open source community, so looking to empathize about free software stuff in here is not going to happen, even less for RMS.