• AnAmericanPotato@programming.dev
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    That’s when Windows 10 stops getting security updates. Expect most software vendors to drop support for Windows 10 this year if they haven’t already. That doesn’t necessarily mean things will stop working, but it will not be tested and they won’t spend time fixing Win10-specific problems.

    In enterprise, you can get an additional three years of “extended security updates”. That’s your grace period to get everyone in your org upgraded.

    While I strongly relate to anyone who hates Windows 11, “continue using Windows 10 forever” was never a viable long-term strategy.

    Windows 10 was released in 2015. Ten years of support for an OS is industry-leading, on par with Red Hat or Ubuntu’s enterprise offerings and far ahead of any competing consumer OS. Apple generally only offers three years of security updates. Google provides 3-4 years of security updates. Debian gets 5 years.

    There has never been a time in the history of personal computing when using an OS for over 10 years without a major upgrade was realistic. That would be like using Windows 3.1 after XP was released. Windows 10 is dead, and it’s been a long time coming.

    Now go download Fedora.

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    They have always categorized the 365 apps, and 365 software as 2 distinct platforms. The apps are the website based versions, while the actual 365 installs were still considered a traditional install.

    This could have changed in the years I worked for them, but this could be just impacting the website versions.

    Edit -Rereading the article, this does sound like all 365 software will be impacted since they used the word applications. Keep in mind though, any office prior to 2013 is officially incompatible with 10/11, but they still run in most cases without problems.

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      No, it isn’t. They don’t disable Office on Windows 10 on that date.
      They just don’t take Windows 10 into account anymore in developing updates to the office apps.
      Which means those apps might stop working at some point if an update to them happens to break Windows 10 compatibility.

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        When Win 11 is such a hostile experience for privacy, yeah it still is out of spite, just for different reasons. I’m so glad to be rid of Windows in my home.

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    I just realized. Windows 10 is being shelved but there is only one version ahead of it.

    I remember xp still being considered good when i had win 8 installed.

    How is that not understood as as a blatant attempt to maximize user control?

    Actually looking at the numbers xp and 8.1 retired within 2 years of eachother. And 10 first got retired in 2020 a year before win 11 was released to make way of windows as a service updates which is actually what is getting retired later this year.

    Microsoft kindly please get your shit together… or dont and strengthen my work requests to migrate systems to Linux.

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      Microsoft is a lot more aggressive with EoLing it’s Windows versions now exactly because XP lived so long. It was an absolute pain for them to maintain and support that for so long and they’ve made very sure they don’t repeat that experience.

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    So what’s the news here? Win 10 support ends in october. Doesn’t that automatically mean that they will also not support office apps running on Win 10 starting october?

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    The harder MS tries to force Win11 on me the clearer it becomes how bad it is.

    I will move to another office suit,install, and learn a completely new OS like Linux after 40 years of Windows before I ever install their unnecessary and untrustworthy data-miner.

    Win10 was bad but most of it could be removed/worked around. This time it’s clearly war against typical users so F it I’m out.

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      before I ever install their unnecessary and untrustworthy data-miner

      You’re about [current year minus year you installed Win10] years too late for that. That said, if you intend to come over to Linux, it’s probably best to set time-bounded goals for yourself instead of vaguely putting it off until MS does something that crosses some poorly defined line, else you risk having to chaotically abandon ship at the last minute and making the transition much harder.

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        To add on if you have multiple machines in your home, move one machine to something easy like Arch Mint now to ease yourself in. I dropped a 2nd SSD for Mint in main machine and haven’t booted my win install in over 2 years and even then it was unnecessary. Currently I’m up to the family computer on Mint, 2 laptops running Tumbleweed and Fedora, a server on Debian, 2 Raspberry Pis on Raspian, and a router on FreeBSD.

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    For those about to switch, welcome to Linux! If you have AMD hardware give Linux Mint a shot. If you have NVIDIA, Pop!_OS is worth your first install.

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      Me, with an AMD CPU and Nvidia GPU, who is expecting to maybe upgrade to an Intel GPU this year and swap to Linux: visible confusion

      We truly do live in the weirdest timeline.

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      Pop_OS is a good alternative. I still believe that most non-gaming adults would be happy with Firefox and LibreOffice on Linux.

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      Love to, I’ve been running Fedora on my laptop for ages. Unfortunately my gaming rig still needs windows for VR stuff. Pimax has yet to add Linux support.
      Either way, I’ve pirated a copy of LTSC. By the time that dies, I’ll probably have replaced the Pimax with a Deckard headset.

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        That’s just my guess: Linux mint may be easier to get into and more popular, however it doesn’t come with pre installed proprietary drivers. Pop OS is based on the same distro so should be similar enough, but it comes with pre packaged drivers

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            Bit of a weird reason to recommend a distro for me though? Isn’t installing drivers (even Nvidia) basically just the same as Windows these days?

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              The difference with Pop OS in particular is that they offer installation ISOs with the proprietary NVIDIA drivers preinstalled, meaning you don’t have to fuss with installing them at all.

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    No thanks, it takes excel 2-3 seconds to load a blank document, which pisses me off every time.