Do you think this will have an impact on the actual genocide, though? Do you feel like you’ve done enough? Can you fairly and honestly say this is something you care about if this is your only action regarding this problem?
Yes. Trump’s incompetence is much more likely to lead to failure.
No. While you still draw breath and the genocide is ongoing, you can never say you’ve done enough.
Where did I say this was my only action? I specifically called it my “most basic” action, indicating I view it as one of the easiest/least impactful.
Did I remove any relevant context?
Yes, and I provided the context directly under where I accused you of removing it. I was speaking of the “white male” group you singled out in relation to other groups. You made it seem as if I was singling you personally out in relation to other groups.
This is the last I’ll say on it, since we both agree that the sex, gender and ethnicity of the other is irrelevant.
Any chance on giving that statement second thought? I think you’ll find something interesting.
I’ve thought about it and have determined that white males do not face unique forms of discrimination due to them being white males, simply the same capitalist oppressions which used to be reserved for others. So to single them out as a unique group that is discriminated against is not based in reality.
"When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression "
I’m unfamiliar with the term. Maybe if you clarify I can tell you if I feel identified with the definition.
Someone who’s desire for engaging in and “winning” internet debates is libidinal.
Erm… So by me suggesting their vote was lost, i implied they were victims?
No, suggesting that their vote was lost due to the democratic party “denying their humanity, feelings and fears” implies they are victims of having those things stripped away.
Under my perspective, everyone deserves to be listened to, have their humanity accepted and treated with respect (even in situations of conflict and mutual destruction). You, me, white males, bolivians, jews, palestines, fundies, tankies, billionaires, criminals, war criminals, nazis, hitler, genghis khan. Everyone.
So we have a core disagreement here (though I don’t see the relevance).
Respect is freely given but can be lost. How do you respect Nazis? Baby Hitler did nothing wrong sure, adult Hitler is a different story. We didn’t beat Hitler by hearing him out and defeating him in the marketplace of ideas. We pushed the Nazis in and he ate a bullet.
My original point was about the consequences of the lack of willingness to convey these basic forms of empathy to white males in the election (this doesn’t imply i consider them victims. I don’t.)
Another core disagreement.
these things were conveyed to white males. Far more than any other group. I’m expected to vote democratic party despite a genocide of my brothers and sisters in faith…Dems literally adopted Trump’s white nativist policies to try and appeal to white males and {1}you’re justifying their lack of support while combatting mine…
being stripped of your “humanity, feelings and fears” and having to face a total lack of empathy in the system, would be victimization. It’s just not something they face.
Yes. Trump’s incompetence is much more likely to lead to failure.
No. While you still draw breath and the genocide is ongoing, you can never say you’ve done enough.
Where did I say this was my only action? I specifically called it my “most basic” action, indicating I view it as one of the easiest/least impactful.
Yes, and I provided the context directly under where I accused you of removing it. I was speaking of the “white male” group you singled out in relation to other groups. You made it seem as if I was singling you personally out in relation to other groups.
This is the last I’ll say on it, since we both agree that the sex, gender and ethnicity of the other is irrelevant.
I’ve thought about it and have determined that white males do not face unique forms of discrimination due to them being white males, simply the same capitalist oppressions which used to be reserved for others. So to single them out as a unique group that is discriminated against is not based in reality.
"When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression "
Someone who’s desire for engaging in and “winning” internet debates is libidinal.
No, suggesting that their vote was lost due to the democratic party “denying their humanity, feelings and fears” implies they are victims of having those things stripped away.
So we have a core disagreement here (though I don’t see the relevance).
Respect is freely given but can be lost. How do you respect Nazis? Baby Hitler did nothing wrong sure, adult Hitler is a different story. We didn’t beat Hitler by hearing him out and defeating him in the marketplace of ideas. We pushed the Nazis in and he ate a bullet.
Another core disagreement.
these things were conveyed to white males. Far more than any other group. I’m expected to vote democratic party despite a genocide of my brothers and sisters in faith…Dems literally adopted Trump’s white nativist policies to try and appeal to white males and {1}you’re justifying their lack of support while combatting mine…
being stripped of your “humanity, feelings and fears” and having to face a total lack of empathy in the system, would be victimization. It’s just not something they face.
Edit: {1}