• Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    I’m a Windows user, that also loves Linux.

    You’re all going to shit on me, but you’re really only shitting on yourselves.

    Some day, you’ll understand. Not today, but someday, you simple dumbasses.

    • iAvicenna@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      I have to say I do like not having to worry about things like “does my OS take screenshots and send it somewhere to be used as an AI training set” and “do I have to accept the OS update they are shoving down my throat so that I basically sell my privacy for not having security problems”. There is enough of that elsewhere already.

    • ZeroOne@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      Get a load of this guy😂 We do understand that you’re using a combative spyware, you braindead oaf

    • pyrflie@lemm.ee
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      2 days ago

      Widows shits on itself. Enjoy the septic tank; it’s only going to get worse, and I wish it wouldn’t

  • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    2 days ago

    Linux distros are just the new “101 flavors of Protestantism,” complete with radical zealots who believe you will go to Hell for choosing the wrong one.

  • octopus_ink@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    No FLOSS loving Linux user is dead to me, and frankly I suspect it’s noobies and non-users pushing these memes lately.

    • Crozekiel@lemmy.zipEnglish
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      2 days ago

      I agree. I don’t think I’ve ever actually received or witnessed the hate that the memes espouse as the norm in the Linux community. I’ve seen some “oh really, I had trouble with that so I use blank instead” or maybe even “you should try blank” (mostly when people ask though). I think most of us are too busy hating Windows to really truly hate other linux distros. We have our favorites and we will happily share that with anyone that asks, and many that don’t.

      I’ve tried to stop talking about it all the time to friends and family as I don’t want to scare them off, but I am just using it everyday in front of them and showing them that I don’t have infinitely more problems than they do… Hoping it just seeps in via osmosis and at some point one too many “hey, you should buy a new computer, windows 10 is going end of life soon you know” pop-ups will set off that magical chain reaction.

      • zqps@sh.itjust.works
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        2 days ago

        When I met a close friend’s husband at an event, somehow PCs and Linux came up. He asked if I’m a Linux user (which I like to think you can’t immediately tell); I assume he wanted to build some nerd cred. I said “yeah, I technically have Linux with me right now”. He asked what I meant, so I pulled out the Steam Deck. He was unfamiliar, so I briefly explained.

        When he heard it’s (obviously) a commercial product, he actually pretended to faint. And then kept acting as if I had personally insulted him, not in a joking way.

        It was a strange experience. Not even in hackerspaces I’d ever had a conversation like that. So these people are rare but they do exist.

        • TheMachineStops@discuss.tchncs.de
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          2 days ago

          Steam Deck is one of them best things ever created. It is a great way to market Linux to masses, this is the same way Windows gained its market cap. Windows made its dominance by being the default operating system for most PCs, normal users don’t know how to install operating systems, and probably don’t even know Linux exists.

        • Crozekiel@lemmy.zipEnglish
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          2 days ago

          Absolutely wild. Pretending to faint because a company sells hardware running on Linux? I feel like most of us want to be able to buy more computers that don’t just automatically come with Windows… That person sucks.

        • AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 days ago

          honestly if I heard someone say “I technically have linux with me right now” I would expect them to pull out an Android phone and say that Android is based on the Linux kernel (it is, its just not what anyone means when they say ‘linux’, its a pretty good example of how ‘linux’ refers to the OS and not the kernel)

          • zqps@sh.itjust.works
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            2 days ago

            Yeah fair. I expected we’d talk about how Linux could displace Windows on Desktop, to which SteamOS and Proton running on an x86 laptop chip is a lot more relevant than an Android phone.

      • Naz@sh.itjust.works
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        2 days ago

        Oh come on at some point, every software project or foundation needs to cover their expenses somehow or else they enshittify or cease to exist/get acquired by a dangerous, moneyed conglomerate. It’s known as the going concern principle.

        Out of all of the projects that I can think of in recent memory that started as big open source useful things, only VLC Media Player managed to avoid turning into garbage, and it’s because the lead developer is a saint.

        You can avoid Ubuntu because they have a paid plan and that’s your prerogative, but imagine they got bought out by Apple or something.

        • AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 days ago

          I know a lot of people are fine with a paid plan, I’ve just seen what has happened to some projects like Fusion 360 where they slowly take away more and more features from the free version, slowly decrease support, and all new features go to the pro version. I would be surprised if this happens to ubuntu, but I don’t want to take that chance.

          You’re acting like there isn’t another option. I could just go use Arch with KDE Plasma or something instead, or maybe Fedora which is at least somewhat separated from the ‘pro version’ (red hat)

          Out of all of the projects that I can think of in recent memory that started as big open source useful things, only VLC Media Player managed to avoid turning into garbage, and it’s because the lead developer is a saint.

          the Linux Kernel, Blender, Godot, Lemmy are some examples that come to mind, or maybe I’m just not understanding what you’re trying to say here

        • AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 days ago

          I would never use MacOS myself but I get the ‘it just works’ aspect and the crazy energy efficiency of Apple’s hardware, also some tech youtubers I respect like Jeff Geerling and JDH use it

          Now, iOS on the other hand… (I was seeing if a family member’s ipad would work as a drawing tablet for Blender recently using the Moonlight app (which actually supports pressure sensitivity btw), but USB streaming doesn’t work because apple ties that to its hotspot and therefore having cellular, and the 3rd party apps are all removed from the app store, its just so stupid that I have the ipad and the cable and yet I can only transfer data over wifi)

      • zqps@sh.itjust.works
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        2 days ago

        When I tried Arch in '23, it worked well. Then I got busy and lazy and didn’t use it for 2-3 months. When I came back and did yay -sYu as I had learned, dozens of KDE and core packages were throwing errors and wouldn’t update. Unfortunate.

      • ulterno@programming.devEnglish
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        2 days ago

        I do it whenever I feel like. Don’t even feel the need to be regular.

        With Win10, the notifications used to increase my tension

        • Nalivai@lemmy.world
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          2 days ago

          And if so, I can’t for the life of me Invision how it’s harder on Arch than on the Ubuntu or its derivatives.

            • bitwaba@lemmy.world
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              1 day ago

              That’s the real “difference” in the Linux camps right?

              Ubuntu N00bs - “what’s a terminal?” vs. Arch, Gentoo, Nix, etc users who despite whatever camp you’re in you know you can tell them “you need to enable the systemd service” or "add option blah to /etc/program.conf and they know what they means without further explanation.

    • JATth@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      Arch maintenance: 0. Install it once. (The proper way)

      1. Every 2 weeks minimum pacman -Syu
      2. Every 3 months merge/update configs in /etc.

      I don’t get what is with this so hard? Yes, configs can be undecipherable but 90% time the merge involves just deleting the .pacnew versions.

      • Aelis@lemm.ee
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        2 days ago

        On EndavourOS here, I spent hours upon install tinkering and setting everything like I wanted and forgot most of what I did ever since.

        I’m so lazy I use a one word alias to update all my stuff in one go. I rarely have to bother myself reading and checking if everything’s fine (I still do it from time to time just to be safe but I do it less and less because it’s almost useless)… I even update a bit late sometimes and quite randomly in general.

        It’s been almost 4 years like this now, nothing ever broke, had an issue with an Aur only once…never even had to tinker with anything.

        I remember having harder times with Ubuntu or Manjaro like a decade ago…even had freaking issues with Mint, it’s crazy.

      • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        2 days ago

        You say maintenance is 0 then list 2 things I don’t have to do on Mint

        Remembering to bother with a CLI and configs is the hard part, on Mint I get a nice GUI with reminders that I have updates to things. You know, like it’s some time past the year 2000?

      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        2 days ago

        Running pacman every two weeks seems like a bad idea if you have a lot of packages… The dependencies can get dicey if you have to update too many at once.

        • JATth@lemmy.world
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          1 day ago

          Well I meant two weeks is the longest period i can leave the system without updating and have no problems. And i have yet to break it with 300 pkgs updating at once.

      • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        The problem is that other 10% where I have to spend my time trawling the arch wiki to fix my OS instead of like… doing cool things on my computer. If that’s what you enjoy that’s great, but your hobby is not my hobby. I’ve used arch on several of my devices, it can be great! But there’s this idea that arch is the perfect solution to pretty much everyone’s desktop problems and it’s crazymaking to see repeated over and over on here.

      • Really_long_toes@lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        Yeah, I started on Ubuntu, got acclimated to Linux using it, went to mint, didn’t give me what I wanted and just dove into arch, been running the same install for 8 years now and honestly don’t want any more from my os… I also love my steam deck… It runs arch BTW 😉

    • L3ft_F13ld!@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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      3 days ago

      Mint is one of the best versions of Ubuntu you could possibly use. They give you Ubuntu without all the forced snaps and other crap.

        • L3ft_F13ld!@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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          3 days ago

          Fair enough, but Mint gives you the more up to date base of Ubuntu and some QoL tools that Debian doesn’t have. If you prefer Debian, then use it. I just feel Mint is better for beginners or people who want an easier time with less tinkering.

          • limer@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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            2 days ago

            Debian was good enough for my grandfather and it’s good enough for me. Seriously, running cinnamon desktop in Debian is my best option.

            I don’t need fancy, just no breaking

            Plot twist: am grandfather myself

            • L3ft_F13ld!@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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              2 days ago

              That’s awesome. While I don’t share your love for Debian, I’m glad it exists. Without it, we wouldn’t have Ubuntu or Mint or a ton of other choices.

              It’s also amazing that it works, as-is, for some people. More options just means more possibilities for people to find something that works for them and that’s what’s important.

              • limer@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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                2 days ago

                Ever since docker became available, along with flatpak; the Linux running these became less of an issue for me

            • L3ft_F13ld!@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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              2 days ago

              Which is an excellent option if you’re okay with Debian. It’s a good OS but lacks some of the homegrown tools from the main Mint version. So, for beginners or those less inclined to tinkering I’d still recommend the main edition. Otherwise yes, Debian Edition is another great option.

    • Sternout@feddit.org
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      3 days ago

      He’s not wrong though. Historically left parties have been more splintered than right ones.

  • _____@lemm.eeEnglish
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    3 days ago

    me as an arch user when I have to use ubuntu for work: arthur-fist-clench.gif

  • comador @lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    As an old crusty Slackware user and UNIX admin, IDGAF what Linux distro people use; using any of them is a step in the right direction.

    • wookiepedia@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      Couldn’t agree more! Hell, it doesn’t even have to be Linux. AIX on an LPAR? Cool. Irix on an old SGI workstation? You do you, man. MacOS and you use open source tools? Get it, man! Solaris on x86? You’re a sick fuck, but hey, it takes all types to make the world go round, you Larry Ellison supporting twat. Anyways, just use a unix variant, any of them.

      • comador @lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        What? No mention of the bastard child: Microsoft Azure (Mariner) Linux? You sick MS loving mutant!