• woelkchen@lemmy.worldM
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    3 days ago

    So this is a test post you ask users to repost? And by you, I mean a paid writer for Heise, a commercial business? Looks to me at best as a meaningless test post, at worst an unpaid ad for your employer.

    How is this not spam and why should I not remove this from !fediverse@lemmy.world?

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      @woelkchen@lemmy.world @mho@social.heise.de

      So this is a test post you ask users to repost?

      I think you misunderstood the request to “share” there. They’re most likely talking about boosts, Mastodon’s version of Twitter’s retweets. Lemmy, I think, doesn’t implement boosts. So it makes sense you would interpret it differently.

      Basically, this isn’t a call to repost. It’s essentially just asking to upvote and boost and OP can then see from where those interactions came.

      why should I not remove this from !fediverse?

      It’s on topic and your community has no rule against test/experimental posts.

      Your community might want some additional rules if these kinds of posts are undesired. Like a low effort rule maybe. Or a rule against posts asking for upvotes and similar actions. A quick look at lemmy.world’s site-wide rules didn’t look like such a rule is there.

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        I think you misunderstood the request to “share” there. They’re most likely talking about boosts, Mastodon’s version of Twitter’s retweets. Lemmy, I think, doesn’t implement boosts.

        It doesn’t, making the posting to Lemmy completely pointless, even if it wasn’t a commercial experiment. Cross-posts don’t count as boosts.

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      @woelkchen

      Well, the ad for my employer (as an WP-link) came from you, didn’t it?

      This is not the first such post: I have a tool, that makes it simple to later visualize from where the reactions came.
      https://social.heise.de/@mho/112965913501761509
      I think it’s quite interesting to compare the promise of the #Fediverse (reach so many different networks) with the reality (it’s mainly #Mastodon). And this is a good way, I think. On the other hand, this posts do show, how far your content can go.

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        Well, the ad for my employer (as an WP-link) came from you, didn’t it?

        You posted from that commercial domain, Wikipedia is non-commercial.

        And this is a good way, I think.

        That’s a weak argument for why your post isn’t spam. We here at Lemmy did not agree beforehand to participate in your experiment how far your commercial posts reach.

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              Isn’t this directly about the #Fediverse?

              Seems like your primary interest is to measure commercial reach and so far you made no argument to the contrary. I’m not against commercial content in the Fediverse. In fact, I’m in favor on giving users the choice what they follow and what they don’t follow but that question hasn’t been asked by you here. You just made your post and all ~30k subscribers here are the lap rats for your experiment.

              Mastodon users mindlessly tagging entire Lemmy communities are a common annoyance and if your analytics tool is the same as in the past, it doesn’t even register any interactions from there anyway, making your experiment even more pointless but not really a pity to me that Lemmy is invisible to your advertisers:

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                @woelkchen

                Honestly, please tell me more about how I can commercialize this posts. This would make it easier for me to justify all I’m doing here out of interest and goodwill towards #Mastodon etc. Mainly in my freetime, if I may add… (I’m using this account, because this is the one for technical stuff and it has greater reach)

                I didn’t “mindlessly” tag the Lemmy community, but because I knew, that otherwise it would be very difficult to spread over there.

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                  Honestly, please tell me more about how I can commercialize this posts.

                  I’m not your business consultant. If you want to hire me, DM me. Don’t spam this Lemmy community.