Re: the recent meta discussion and ongoing chats about self hosting, open vs closed source, AI etc, I wanted to share some food for thought.
I’ll explain why this is related to self hosting at the bottom (section bolded): our lovely new mods can call it. I hope it inspires some out loud thinking.
Disclosure: I am not the content creator nor am I paid by them to signal boost. I just like their stuff and think this is an important topic, from multiple angles.
“The future of AI depends on the moral compass of five people.”
I’ve been watching “AI in context” for a few weeks (they make long form biopic content on current state of AI - really good stuff).
This dropped today; it’s about the wheeling and dealing behind closed doors at OpenAI re: Sam Altman’s firing. It’s a lot more watchable than that sounds :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eYTkvZqbnQ
The line that brought me to a stand still was “the future of AI depends on the moral compass of like 5 people”.
I think folks here (and Lemmy generally) are more savvy about AI then the gen pop (though Lemmy is famously FuckAI)…but even if you’re training a nanoGPT model from scratch on hardware you own …you’re still beholden to outside forces.
Eg: the people’s champion - Qwen - seems to have split or gone closed weights for 3.7. That’s not a good sign.
Reason for post
In the recent [Meta] chat, I noted an undercurrent of “no man is an island” - that is, yes, you might host your own X, but you’re still dependant on external Y (eg: SearXNG).
Self hosting / FOSS / forking mitigates some of the “we changed the terms of service after the sale” enshittification we see occurring in related spaces (eg: right to repair). But there’s only so much leverage you can enact before it becomes pyrrhic.
I would like to believe “fuck you, I won’t do what you told me” is our bulwark against market forces.
At the same time, it’s sad to see so many “Don’t be Evil” mission statements not survive contact with reality (watch the vid: OAi was founded on the ideal of “don’t let AGI kill us”)
I think what happens upstream has effects down stream too (see prior X vs Y examples)…
Not sure where this leaves us. It’s a weird time to be alive.
Enjoy the video (and their others - Ai2027 is eye opening). Look forward to any productive chat this post might inspire.
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I think its completely on topic personally.
We should keep in mind that self hosting means different things to different people. For some (and probably a huge chunk of the fediverse) its about working towards being free from the oligarchs, controlling your own data, etc.
But for others it may be just sharing some movies with friends or being able to watch high quality when you have two tin cans and a string for an internet connection. It may be trying out different technologies, maybe learning a few things to try and get a few more bucks a year. It may even just be they can’t afford or just don’t want to pay for the five subscriptions they’d need to have their bike computer sync up with their fitness tools so they can estimate their caloric needs better.
And none of these reasons are wrong, just their own reasons for wanting to selfhost.
So I hope everyone will continue to keep that in mind in the comments.
I hope so too. And I hope it (upstream affects down stream, no man is an island etc) generates some productive conversation.
To wit: the recent Plex situation.
On topic OK, but that event was 3 years ago and they call it ‘today’, ha ha, and the rest of this post is also more holes than logic. I won’t watch your youtub on top of that
“'Dropped today” refers to the video btw, not the firing - it’s a retrospective video essay.
Logic stands, but counter-argue it if you like.
Peace favour your sword.