• HStone32@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    The amount of time my classmates have spent dealing with vscode crashing, freezing, breaking, etc is way beyond negligible. And yet, I’m the weird guy apparently for preferring vim and GCC.

  • LovableSidekick@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    6 days ago

    I don’t mind Vim, it reminds me of my years using EDT on Vax/VMS systems in the 80s and 90s. My fingers knew all the function keys so well, the UI was almost invisible. But more recent years of using Windows because of work have ingrained VS and VSCode the same way, and I like the feel of the mouse.

  • phoneymouse@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    My professor was always trying to get us to use vim or eMacs over an IDE to write our C programs. I’m sorry, I like using a mouse. I know, I know, blasphemy. I’m taking a shortcut. I’m a noob.

    When I absolutely have to, I go for vim, mostly because I know a few of the key bindings for it, but otherwise avoid it.

    • BaumGeist@lemmy.ml
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      6 days ago

      I’m taking a shortcut

      more like a longcut. I save so much time and effort not having to switch my right hand between the mouse and keyboard constantly

      • phoneymouse@lemmy.world
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        6 days ago

        I keep my hands on my laptop and use my thumb on the track pad. My hands don’t leave the keyboard. I actually never use extra mice or extra keyboards.

  • muse@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    6 days ago

    That can’t be right, the red car has a service manual and too many functioning assemblies for it to be VS.

  • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    The comparison is bad. It’s more like comparing a kind of crappy car to a nice unicycle once you factor in UX. Not everyone likes to punch in key combinations so complicated it’s making game cheats look simple in comparison.

  • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    I would argue that vim is fantastic for a lot of editing and coding tasks, just not all of them.

    Where it utterly fails is with deep trees of files in codebases, like you see in Java or some Javascript/Typescript apps. Even with a robust suite of add-ons, you wind up backing into full-bore IDE territory to manage that much filesystem complexity. Only difference is that navigating and managing a large file tree w/o a mouse is kind of torture.

    • expr@programming.dev
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      6 days ago

      File-based navigation is often inefficient anyway (symbolic navigation is much better when you can), but if you do need it, that’s what fuzzy finders are for. Blows any mouse-based navigation out of the water.

      The only time a visual structure is useful is when you are actually just interested in learning how things are structured for whatever reason, but for that task, tree works just fine anyway.

    • murtaza64@programming.dev
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      7 days ago

      Once I got used to single-directory filetree browsing plus fuzzy finding, I have never been able to comfortably use a traditional filetree anymore. most of them are not designed for efficient keyboard use (vscode and intellij at least) and don’t really help understanding the structure of the project imo (unless there arent that many files). For massive projects I find it easier to spend the initial effort of learning a few directory names and the vague structure using oil.nvim, and then eventually I can just find what I need almost instantly by fuzzy finding.

    • ivn@jlai.lu
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      7 days ago

      Fuzzy finding really shine for this use case, no need for a mouse.

  • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    It always surprises me how complicated some of the editor tooling sounds in threads like this. Obviously once you learn how to use these things they are powerful, but how do people have the patience to deal with all of that in the beginning? This is coming from a guy who writes scripts constantly to avoid doing tedious, error-prone things.

    Also I keep seeing people say vscode is slow. One of the reasons I switched to it is that it’s insanely fast compared to other editors I used (even those with far-inferior featuresets) 🤷‍♂️