• sanitation@lemmy.radioOP
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    Look - US ai companies gonna lose ai race to China.
    Already china models are almost on par quality wise and a lot less expensive.
    They also have a firewall and we don’t - so they can have our data, but we can’t have theirs.

    So why even torture population with high electric bills?

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      There is no international AI race by the way. If anything it’s a game of hot potato. Competing to not be the one holding it when the crash happens.

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      Race… to what end? It’s only about money. And some superficial idiots having that money, believing they can summon their AGI god on top of a digital parrot. Ok, money and power fantasies.

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      I think everyone saw $$$-printer that AWS is and now the most evil people you know are trying to emulate it. That will buy them a lot of chocolate.

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      Right? Qwen 3.6 27B is fantastic, for example. Data centers need to stop hoarding all the hardware so we can afford to run models like that.

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        Yeah I’m using that as we speak actually.
        Qwen studio mobile app is free - I’m running 3.6 plus model it’s free.
        Same with recent kimi, minimax, deepseek models are great - all these companies have mobile apps and coding agents I can pay and use today. https://qwen.ai/qwencode

        Already it’s leaked that cursor’s composer 2.0 model is based on Kimi 2.5.

        Anthropic/openai sky high valuations are based on a notion they will be that ones left standing and bunch of humans gonna be fired and companies gonna be paying ai rent. But that assumes little competition. What we are seeing is totally different - open models caught up, china actively selling it. US ai companies thus will never be able to just jack prices - as there is tons of competition.

        https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-04-27/why-china-s-deepseek-qwen-and-moonshot-are-a-worry-for-us-ai-rivals