In a long post titled “Our commitment to Windows quality,” published on Microsoft’s website and sent via email to millions of members of the Windows Insider Program, Windows boss Pavan Davuluri laid out a laundry list of changes Microsoft plans to make in Windows 11, starting this month.
What’s most remarkable about this post is what it doesn’t contain. Here’s how Davuluri kicked things off:
Every day, we hear from the community about how you experience Windows. And over the past several months, the team and I have spent a great deal of time analyzing your feedback. What came through was the voice of people who care deeply about Windows and want it to be better.
That paragraph belongs in the non-apology Hall of Fame, with a cross-reference to “Friday news dump” – a classic PR technique that aims to minimize media coverage of the awkward news being released.
They HAVE to be seeing some attrition.
Prepare to see them sabotage Wine.
I’ve heard the entire DOT is switching from the M365 apps to GSuite, thats gotta hurt.
It’s def disruptive, depends on how much teams and ‘sharepoint’ they’re using. I’ve done some decent sized orgs before (not that big) and anything that’s not just email and a distribution list is always a pain.
Windows < 11 is legacy software and Windows > 10 is slop. Nobody should care about either.
Simply: Windows XP began the enshittification and it has only gotten worse since then.
Microslop
The Microslop Winblows 11 Sloperating System, brought to you by Slopya Nadella’s non functioning brain and an army of prompts
I’m sorry, but you don’t sweep windows, you wipe or squeegee them. It also helps if the manufacture doesn’t fill the gap between the panes with actual feces.
There is no committment to quality. Marketing lies. Nothing new.
And I dont think anyone who uses windows cares deeply about it.
When I read that paragraph, I was gobsmacked. They “spent months analyzing feedback”? Seriously? They needed charts and graphs to figure out that people just want Windows to work?
Should they have not analyzed feedback? Out of everything you could complain about Microsoft, complaining about them taking their time to get it right this time wouldn’t be one of them. I mean, they aren’t going to get it right this time, but that seems like a different complaint.
I suppose my question is why did they need to spend months analysing the feedback? Couldn’t they just point copilot at the data and have it instantly analyse it for them?
The editor’s name is Ed Bott?! As in Editorial Robot?! You can’t make this shit up.(well, i kinda did)
Did Copilot write this whole thing?
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This is marketing speak for “We realized that we could lose market share if we further don’t listen to our users”.
Didn’t they already announce such a change for gaming when the steam deck comparisons came out?
Yeah, I’ll believe it when I see it
Nothing but lip service. MS did not “analyze your feedback” because it was never about what you wanted, they analyzed their income (most likely from enterprise customers) and realized they may have boiled the frog too quickly. Windows will never improve because they do not want it to improve, they want it to make as much money as humanly possible, and they will eternally push that envelope to find out just how much bullshit their customers will tolerate.
They’ve had feedback for years and ignored it.
Then they asked copilot to write a blogpost to get adoption of win11 up.
I have a feeling this can’t be fixed unless they fork from a pre-slop point, which is highly unlikely.
The core problem with AI is not being incapable of generating working code, but the ability to maintain by AI or human.
AI has a larger memory (context size) than human. It can generate codes that are difficult for human to understand, and the complexity can build up fast, especially doing vibe coding without clear instructions (especially architectural).
On reaching a critical level, AI starts to make significantly more errors. At this point, no one can maintain, the codes are spaghetti. I think this is where Windows is at.
I wonder if there will come a point where everything is just too messed up to even salvage
They’d have to fork from early Windows 10. There’s so much garbage introduced by humans at that point, nevermindLLMs.
But on the other hand, Windows is a dead and broken product to me. So I don’t care.
What now windows 14 already??
More than hopeful this makes me concerned that change leads to more issues and worsening. That’s the expectation they established.
I followed several of the authors zdnet links. Crazy. Good articles, callouts and documentation.
The announcement is pretty broad and unconcrete. Some things are listed, and the slow context menu open is one I certainly care about (even when it’s not my primary context menu because Double Commander opens the classic one), but everything else is wishy washy and nonesense corporate speak and doesn’t include my main smaller issues.
/edit: oh, and I found the “we heard feedback” (ommission of negative or concern) particularly tone-deaf when they’re attemting to tackle criticism. Insane.
Hey, hang on.
They just raised my annual subscription charge due to costs of AI. Now they’re undoing their work.
I bet the price of my subscription doesn’t go down due to their incompetance.
If you start the ‘cancel’ subscription process it’ll offer a non-ai option back at the original price.
Or at least it used to closer to when they pulled that stunt.
yeah there’s a classic subscription model that doesn’t have slopcrap in it that’s at the original rates before they forced people to pay for to get their AI trash that no one wanted.
cancel, then take the lower sub and dump ai. or just dump microslop entirety
The only reason Microsoft is doing anything is their enterprise customers have had enough of their BS.
I think it’s because laptop vendors are threatened by the MacBook Neo, which is the first serious threat to PC sales for non tech people who buy the shitty $300 laptops at Best Buy since Chromebooks, which is the majority of the market. Bad press about Windows absolutely will convince people to get one instead of a windows laptop
Linux could also be a genuine threat if someone like Valve comes out with a Linux laptop for gamers or a major vendors starts preinstalling like Ubuntu or Fedora on consumer oriented laptops but I doubt any major vendors would unless they have a serious falling out with MS
Yes 100% The neo devices will lock in the newer generation to Mac OS and the next three decades will be them switching to Mac based enterprise solutions. And windows will be losing marking share then - linux and mac over taking enterprise solutions because of the bs Satya Nadella and his team did, with COPILOT. I am just laughing imagining that day.
Bloat after bloat. Fuck em. Microslop.
Well…yeah. That’s their bread and butter.
The sweepingest of changes to Windows?
Moving to Linux.
I encourage everyone to take a major dump on Microslop and move to greener pastures
It really is greener there. Been there for almost two decades, it’s so nice. Been tweaking my setup ever since and it’s still evolving all the time.
My last venture has been Niri + Noctalia shell. Works so great together.
Can confirm
Yep
Happy cake day!
Thanks!
I did the jump 3 years ago, now Linux is the “normal” for me. Couldn’t imagine having a Windows machine anymore. Not even a Mac.
I am a more recent convert, having switched last year to Bazzite on my desktop and Linux Mint on my laptop. I also installed Mint on the desktop computer at work.
No dual-booting, all Linux all the way.
Screw Microsoft and the likes of Apple.
Ye, I remember the first 3-4 months where horrible. Started out with kubuntu, and everything felt wrong and broken.
But I can say this: The past 3 years has been amazing for linux. It really went crazy with the amount of things you can use now but not before. The past 2 years I havent had anything in my household other than linux. Even my mother and brother got onbpard, who isn’t IT capeable at all! It’s really a special time for linux and easy for folks to get on-board now.
My tech knowledge is not at all current, recently got sick of windows BS and installed linux mint on my laptop. The whole process was really easy, didn’t have to use command prompt at all or understand any arcane technical terms. It was actually easier and more accessible than windows.
If I could have anything better than an iPad to sketch on that isnt windows or Mac, and was Linux based I would. So far all my other stuff is Linux aside from my phone. But soon. Soon I’ll have my fair phone … soon…
Have you tried another good drawing tablet you could boot linux on? Now, I’m no artist, but I have heard good things about krita?
I have tried other tablets. The response is nothing like an iPad. Also I need to have at least one apple product just to use Apple TV (and validate anything Apple) which sucks hard.
Krita is awesome. Tablet options not so much. Many Intel based tablets are rather heavy and clunky comparatively, or have poor digitization. Touch screens aren’t the same as digitizer pen support. Some like the surface tablets are proprietary enough that you have to jump through many tech hoops just to set it up. And then there’s the cost. You can do it but its expensive in money and time. It has to be something you want to do for yourself. Because it will not make monetary or otherwise.
Android tablets are again loaded down with tech hurdles. Can they be unlocked? How hard is it? And what special hardware might you need to do it? Then you have to consider how hard is it to flash a different operating system onto it. And finally, how much of the proprietary hardware is just not going to work, and is that a deal breaker.
There is a version of Krita for Android. But the few devices I have that can launch it. The UI is unusable. Everything else works. You just have to fight the UI hard.
I got an older ARM based chrome tab for about 40 dollars. Went through the hoops to put postmarket is on it. Only the camera doesn’t work. But the 4GB of ram is the biggest bottleneck. CPU cores are fine. But just sitting idle at the desktop a little under 1/8 of the ram is already used up. Open Firefox or chrome and you are already swapping hard likely. Krita works well with the USF pen support. But the ram again is a heavy limit on document size. It’s definitely not for most people.
I desperately would love a good affordable Linux tablet platform. KDE plasma’s touch experience has been really good. Not perfect, but most of the hitches are edge enough cases in daily use. If someone would make a shell with just a full HD screen and pen support capable of using a compute module SOC. Raspberry pi or other compatible SOC. That would almost be ideal as long as they could meet a decent price point. Which is always the thing that tends to kill these concepts.
Have you tried Wacom?
They have their own TablePCs and manufacturers make Tablet PCs with their digitizers.
There is a community made linux drivers for them, compatible TabletPCs are listed here: https://github.com/linuxwacom/input-wacom/wiki/Device-IDs#tablet-pcs
They also make touch screen monitors that start around $300 (up to thousands) that connect to any PC and should also work under Linux, afaik. Or you could get the cheap ‘old school’ tablets made from plastic that simply move and control the cursor, though they take a while to get used to, IMO.
I believe the MacBook Neo was a real wake-up call for management. Apple dominates the high-budget market. Now that Apple has entered the low-budget market, it could threaten their market share, as well as Copilot’s.
I agree. They’re getting attacked on three fronts - Linux for the gaming user base and now macOS for the student, education and casual user base; and all the while, the professionals and creatives get tempted by Apple hardware increasingly running faster, cooler and more energy efficient than anything in the Intel/AMD world. It’s Microsoft’s game to lose and boy they sure seem to want to lose it.
I would never have believed it a few years back, but a world where Linux and Mac collectively have a higher market share than Windows could actually be possible. It’s the perfect storm of M-series chips kicking ass, Valve investing so much in Linux, and Microsoft giving the finger to their customers.
And m$$ demanding user hardware that’s flat out unavailable because chipset cash machine go brrrrrrr
Low… lol
Sub 500 dollar laptops are low budget for new hardware.
Imo $500-700 is squarely midrange when it comes to laptops, the low end is populated with the e-waste that is shitty $200-300 HP laptops
If you can find a mid range in that price range your living in bullshit land of nonsense and rainbow unicorn farts.
The ai bubble has ass fucked laptop pricing.
Even the second hand market is fucked.
Most 500-700 dollar laptops are the ewaste crap now. Anything below that price point is out of date Chromebooks at best.
I can’t agree that there are none, there are just few. If I was in the market for a midrange laptop at the moment I would probably go with this idea pad which should be good for the basics and should be able to do productivity tasks, albeit slowly: definetly not what I would call e-waste
They start at $730 where I live, there are way better alternatives for less.
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I see that photo and i think.
