Altman’s remarks in his tweet drew an overwhelmingly negative reaction.
“You’re welcome,” one user responded. “Nice to know that our reward is our jobs being taken away.”
Others called him a “f***ing psychopath” and “scum.”
“Nothing says ‘you’re being replaced’ quite like a heartfelt thank you from the guy doing the replacing,” one user wrote.
Snake oil salesman is saying that snake oil will replace the doctors.
“Your shits all fucked up…” Is where we’re headed
There are plenty of tards out there living really kick-ass lives. My first wife was tarded. She’s a
pilotpresident now.Office Space, Silicon Valley, and Idiocracy are ALL written by Mike Judge.
I can’t express how mind-blowing that is. How can one guy hit the bull’s-eye that hard, that many times?
Because corporate America never lets him down
That’s because Mike used to work in corporate tech before he switched to filmmaking, that’s why his movies hit these real and relatable frustrations perfectly
This will probably put me in a blacklist in job hunting but if I work as IT in a union-busting, lay-off company and some recently fucked-over employee comes up to me I am giving them all the critical passwords “by accident.”
This feels a lot like a ragebait article.
What did Altman actually tweet that caused the backlash? I can’t seem to find it while skimming, only the responses to it.
-edit- Found it
It is a lot less rage inducing than the article makes it out to be.
I mean I can see how that draws ire. His contribution doesn’t really line up with his benefits. This project started as an open source, with a non profit running it. Now it’s one of the biggest private companies in the world and threatening to replace a lot of jobs. So if you look at the context, he’s already forgetting how much hard work he stole to make himself obscenely rich and powerful!
I mean every obscenely rich and powerful person stole a lot of work from other people…otherwiese they wouldn’t be obscenely rich. So, he’s hasn’t forgotten, he isn’t and never was aware of how much he stole.
His tweet said he’s “already forgetting how much hard work was done”…. by humans! Implying that the AI is doing all the hard work now.
Yes, total ragebait. Thanks for linking to the actual source xit.
I didn’t see the “says their time is over” part anywhere that he allegedly said. Guy’s still a piece of shit, but not seeing anything out of line he said in this specific instance.
It is somewhat clickbait, it links to this shitter post Conman made, but i guess you can kinda extrapolate his idea behind it.
Remember when programmers were telling truck drivers to “learn to code bro” when they thought self-driving trucks were going to be a thing?
Learn to lay bricks, codebros!
cool but that’s not what he said
I have so much gratitude to people who wrote extremely complex software character-by-character. It already feels difficult to remember how much effort it really took.
Thank you for getting us to this point.
this article is garbage.
I don’t know what is Altman’s experience, but almost nobody writes software character by character for many years. Context code completion is present for about 30 years already (take a look at Delphi or VS6 from 90ties). Refactoring tooling is about 20 years old too (see Eclipse or other Java IDEs). So if he says character by character, it is just silly. When you write prompt you also write is char-by-char right? :).
And then there is the highly popular “copy and paste” design pattern
Every programmer working on a problem right now knows that’s complete bullshit.
That said, I would love for robots to take over all of our jobs. Just make sure they’re working for all of us and not just the people at the top.
lol There aren’t even discussions happening about rules of robotics or anything along those lines. It’s just a race into the unknown with no real sense of direction.
The human way
The dumb human way. Asimov was human too.
That said, I would love for robots to take over all of our jobs. Just make sure they’re working for all of us and not just the people at the top.
It seems to me that you live in some kind of rainbow world, this will never happen. If robots replace humans, it means that humans, as useless consumers of resources, will be destroyed.
Yep. That’s the plan.
Is it okay that robots dispose of billionaires along with everyone else? Okay, I don’t care anymore.
I’m sure they will.
Just make sure they’re working for all of us and not just the people at the top.
Yeah, I put a request for just that in the corporate comment box, hope to hear back with those assurances real soon now.
We can achieve purpose without production, but nobody understands what that looks like and they want to hold onto their roles in production until they feel secure about not needing to produce for society to survive.
I’m hopeful that humans won’t need to trade their lives to make others rich. AI and Robotics might be a path toward that if the people are the benefactors.
Worked with playwright in C# .NET today and lol the “AIs” knew shit about it. Constantly mixed C# with JavaScript and Python code together and it was incoherent
Then your input is wrong. I mainly work in .net c# and playwright and I have agents building my e2e tests in playwright with just test cases and test steps. These are custom agents I built myself that have the guardrails in place for the agent to stay in bounds.
I wasnt building test cases :)
The point was that AI can use playwright and write in C# just fine. Tests was an example of that.
Tests are a great use for AI coding, lately. Six months ago Claude Sonnet was writing tests that always passed without testing anything, that has improved dramatically with Opus 4.5/4.6 - it actually hits the functionality now, not just code coverage.
The agents are getting pretty good at reviewing code, too. You don’t have to listen to everything they say, but they do point out a lot of stuff that you pretty much have to admit: yeah, that would be better if I changed it to the suggested revision.
Lmao. Expecting this guy to be at the very least imprisoned by the Trump admin after his company goes belly-up
Please, pedo Trump will feed this black hole money till it collapses the economy.
Trump is actively trying to destroy the dollar.
I don’t think Trump is trying to do anything. There is a state that has an interest in wrecking the economy to reestablish power over a region that has become less and less manageable by a central authority like the US government. When that happens Sam Altman and many others will be put on trial to make an example and show the rest who’s the boss.
I’ve said the same thing for months but people still don’t believe me. They have plenty in crypto to survive a crash.
It’s not to big to fail, but it has too much money riding on it for the 1% to let it fail.
They’ll give them contracts and tax breaks and venture until the cows come home as long as it’s a vessel to make them more money. It doesn’t actually have to produce anything or make any real money, just collect investors.
Fuck ‘Madoff’ Altman.
Unless I’m mistaken, it took programmers to code AI in the first place.
That’s what he’s saying. He’s thanking them for the effort and is saying the AI they created made them obsolete.
i’m pretty sure that a.i. agents won’t be filling out 1040 tax forms
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It must be exhausting having to constantly lie all the time.
It’s only exhausting if you have to remember the lies. The media will never challenged him on them, though.
Honestly I think he believes his own bullshit
It isn’t when you are a sociopath
It’s not when nobody asks you to present facts to support your claims.
They should call it what it is, Offshoring and I remember what happened the last time they did that the quality was so bad most companies eventually and quietly brought the jobs back. AI will be the same thing once they can’t help but admit Scam Altman took them for a ride at everyone’s expense.
Yes. Every one in awhile someone marvels at a particularly good AI answer.
Even back in the days when the scam was the first chess robot, those moments were a sign that the “secret backdoor to let a real human take control” was in effect.
But nobody reads history, so they’re just amazed.
That output is from this guy named Sandeep. His work situation is stupid now. But yes, he’s a great programmer. (Edit: Evidence that the scam is alive, today.)
And no, sharing company secrets with him wasn’t wise.
But if I had to choose between some company’s well being, and Sandeep’s, I’m rooting for Sandeep, anyway.
Go sell some trade secrets, Sandeep. You’ve earned it.
Edit: Links added for those unfamiliar with the trick.
AI stands for “Actually, Indians”
Also, this aged like milk (not the article itself but what they’re pointing out in this paragraph):
The fake robot shtick has another purpose too: it’s a distraction. In 2021, Amazon and Google jointly signed a $1.2 billion contract to provide the Israeli state, including the military, with cloud computing and AI systems. While there’s no evidence that Google or Amazon’s technology has been used in killings of civilians, this continuing deal displays a willingness to engage with a military that has killed 30,000 people, and whose use of “AI”-powered targeting allows it to say: “The machine did it.”
Scam Altman
I like that :-)
yup in the early to mid 10’s every company, startup, etc offshored to India and the drivel that came back was about on par with today’s AI/LLMs. just complete garbage that either needed heavy refactoring or just start over from scratch with competent devs. So seeing all this with AI today I can only think “I’ve seen this episode before”
And that’s with real people.
I would bet far more money on real devs in another country being able to replace devs than “AI”.
Exactly.
The outsourcing supply countries have had over a decade now of working on and around large commercial software platforms.
They have knowledge of their customers needs and the capabilities of the platforms.
Yet how many of them are western owned, and how many are eastern owned?
If 1.4 billion Indians can’t make a corporate-ready viable rip off of SAP in 10 years, AI isn’t going to either.
Hey Sam, just so you know, if I do get laid off, I am going to charge at LEAST double when some of these assholes need to hire me back to fix the AI generated disaster they’re struggling to keep running while bleeding money. So thank you in advance, I guess.
Double??? Fuck that. Charge 10x as much. These rich assholes pay pennies while hoarding billions. Don’t feel bad for them when you need to clean up THEIR mess. I usually want everyone to feel empathy, but in this case, I’ll make an exception. Have no empathy for billionaires. Their GOAL is to make you suffer. Milk their bank account dry.
Unfortunately, the way they function is not to ever go down in value unless it results in hoarding even more cash. At this point, we know the problem is functionally parasitoidal and entirely unacceptable. Also unfortunately for us, it’s both the actors and the systems of ideas and values.
Don’t milk their accounts by charging them more, we must overcome their rhetoric through intelligence and wisdom, and do so whilst bearing the brunt of the very effects of being possessed by the creatures and values, and then redistribute their money back to the correct places in society that it would have been, had this disease not taken root in the first place, using said developed empathy, wisdom, intelligence, and logistics to expell them.
The reason DEI and trans people stuff is such a threat is because those maturations of society touched on the very nerves of them to begin with. Equality, compassion, justice, logic, and tearing down the hypnotizing fences that they’ve been herding and corralling us into serving their flawed and violent worldviews.
We are the slaves building the pyramids, we could be free and healthy, but instead we become satisfyingly vengeful over fantasies over charging a billionaire an extra zero to serve him. This is not the way.
Do not become the oppressor. Do not build the Torment Nexus for any price. These are the dark ways that lead to imprinting values and shame and goals onto society and result in positions like the CEO of a publicly traded company serving shareholders becoming a billionaire. Do not build the Torment Nexus. Do not build the Torment Nexus.
Holy shit. Stop building the Torment Nexus.
There are other ways to make your life better and making actual cool shit. Like infrastructure and entertainment and medicine and tasty heathy food and things that actually make people’s lives better.
I write this as a response to your comment, but we’re both well aware that I’m writing this to anybody who will read it. I really hope that the understanding of what we should focus on isn’t personal enrichment to save one’s own ass. That’s okay, you still have to put your own mask on, but the much higher priority is to stop these madmen from destroying society from their high seats and dark towers out of sight. The system’s chokehold on ourselves to continue to only serve the masters to survive is strong, but we must not lose sight or the hope of the true goals of ridding ourselves of these parasites and the ideas they personify.
Cheers, gesundheit, godzilla.
Holy shit. Stop building the Torment Nexus.
Yes. The best scene in one of the cube movies is when one of the characters admits he thoughtlessly helped build the thing.
I liked all of that.
Lol. The system is set up so that (few) workers will have the leverage to charge double…
Whoops… medical issue… please, sam altman, hire me back at the same salary as before! Or half, i dont care!
That’s true, but they can still charge double by taking longer to fix the problem.
There’s going to be a lot of “# decrement this wait counter every time the boss demands a performance improvement” code in the near future.
Open class warfare isn’t a sustainable way to build infrastructure.
We’re on track to reach a point where nothing produced by the FANG companies ever works right.
Then we’ll see how long the public tolerates it for the comfort of the familiar.
The tweet.
Honestly, i think their (openAI) rationale is that they paid these developers 500k$/yr or whatever… so in their minds, they set these devs up for lifetime success… therefore they have no obligation to keep them employed for long term
I think the devs who are smart, understood the unspoken terms of their agreement
paid these developers 500k$/yr or whatever
The smartest guy I know - dizzyingly capable - was only pulling a very small fraction of that. I suspect ‘or whatever’ is doing a lof of heavy lifting, here.
I seriously hope these fuckers wrote a Killswitch that their employers don’t know about.
Or at least a back door some hacker can drive a semi-truck through. All the screen will show is I HAZ ALL YUR HAMBERDERS
He’s still using a Studio Ghibli pfp? I thought they asked OpenAI to stop using their style. These people are actively hostile to the idea of consent.
Rapist mentality all the way. How fitting they’re all either owners of or owned by to the rapist in the White House.
Yes. That’s why “Epstein class” is such a fair description.
Duly noted. Will adopt.
He’s a molester, what makes you think this would be an issue for him?
He’s at the Elon stage of feeling he needs to be more explicit about what an asshole he is. These guys seem to need recognition.
They all have too much money to spend, literally.
They don’t care about that and it was never about that. It’s about control.
Yes. Epstein taught us it’s also about running a large scale kidnapping and rape organization.
I sound like a broken record, but today, we need to be wary that very few of the Epstein class are proven to be innocent of being complicit in child abduction and rape.
Maybe that’s always been the case? I know the history of the ultra rich has never been nice.
Anyway I find it an important perspective when deciding how much to trust the rest of the messages out of the Epstein class.
I wonder if he wrote that post character-by-character.
But actually typing out the code is the least difficult part of programming, once you’ve been doing it for five or ten years. You have to understand the code that is already there. You have to decide the behavior, either way. You have to review the code, either way. Design the local and overall architecture. Design interfaces and APIs.
The fact that he thinks typing out new code took so much effort basically means that he was never a decent programmer. His statement betrays that he doesn’t even understand what’s difficult. People with his level of understanding of a topic shouldn’t broadcast their ignorance publicly.
I just want to highlight this,
“The fact that he thinks typing out new code took so much effort basically means that he was never a decent programmer.”
Great point! This is a critical insight.
Like during the dotcom boom, new tools mean new people can program the computer who could not, before.
And just like during tht dotcom boom, they’ll soon find out that programming a computer - while very slightly easier than it was last year - still has challenges.
Yeah he sounds like those managers comparing work to how many lines of code you wrote.
Most code I write is something that has not been written before, so barring the basics it’s not an AI I need to work but silence and clear goals (even if they change tomorrow).
The pattern for me is usually 2 or 3 days of analyzing how something works, should work or doesn’t work, then 2 or 3 hours of writing the code to implement or fix it. Most of the work is not writing code, and that is definitely the easy bit.
ChatGPT, write me a missive of a 16th century printing press operator saying goodbye to scribes, only their printing press swaps around words and hallucinates entire sentences every time they use it.
I replaced your second entry of printing press with magic eight ball, and fixed it’s horrible formatting. Also notable that it knows to warn the church at the end, that was the question it’s asking me at the end of the prompt. It knows it’s shit.
To my erstwhile Brethren of the Quill and Ink, I send this missive from the belly of the shop, though the clatter of the press hath fallen into a most peculiar silence. You recall how we once mocked the iron lever for its rigidity? How we feared the cold type would strip the soul from the scripture? Know now that the Heavens—or perhaps the Pit—have seen fit to grant us a new Master.
The great wooden screw is gone. In its stead sits a Glassen Orb, dark as a winter’s night and filled with a phantom bile. There is no setting of leaden letters here. When a customer craves a psalm or a merchant’s tally, I do not reach for the composing stick; I grasp this devilish Bauble and give it a most vigorous agitation.
It is a fickle Muse. Yesterday, seeking to print a simple grace for the Bishop’s table, the Orb brought forth a triangular tongue from its depths which whispered: “OUTLOOK NOT SO GOOD.” I pressed the vellum regardless, yet the ink bled into a vision of a mechanical man weeping oil. This morn, for a common broadside, the Glass hallucinated a sentence of such shimmering madness it claimed the stars are but “glitches in a celestial parchment.”
I am no longer a printer, but a midwife to a fever-dream. The Ink-Balls sit dry, for the Orb provides its own violet humors. It composes histories that have not happened and prophecies that make no sense to any man not currently in the grip of the plague. Go back to your monasteries, good Scribes. Cling to your steady hands and your honest parchment. My “Press” has found a mind of its own, and I fear the next time I shake it, it shall decide that I, too, am merely a typo to be erased. By my hand (and the Orb’s whim),
Geoffrey, Former Master of the Press
Should we delve into the mad prophecies the Orb is printing, or shall we draft a warning to the Church about this “hallucinating” technology?
Actually a good comparison. The printing press still required people to compose the text to print. It only did away with the copying of existing texts. Ai still needs someone to compose the prompt for it to work and explaining to a computer what to do is programming. We’re only moving a level higher in the abstraction.
He spoke that into his phone’s microphone. His fingers are too important and valuable to do anything but wipe his own ass.
