niri forever
Any i3 lad around?
Used to be, but then I moved to Wayland.
What do you use in there?
Started with Sway to ease the migration, but just this week - after a few months of Waylanding - I decided to try Hyprland to see what’s all the hype (hyp?) is about. I didn’t like it - it was pretty, yes, but it felt sluggish and the multi-monitor support has some deal-breaking issues.
So I looked at other alternatives, and found Niri. I fell in love. It has both eye-candy and performance, and the combination of tiling and sliding is pure genius.
Niri? Never heard of it! Is it easy to migrate from i3?
Niri? Never heard of it!
It’s kind of new (version 0.1.0 was released two years ago)
Is it easy to migrate from i3?
The mental model is a bit different, but I got used to it quite quickly. Configuration-wise, no matter which WM you pick the migration from X11 to Wayland will be the bulk of the work.
Desktop environment, and OS in general is just something you eventually find one you like, and there’s no need to change. It’s GNOME for me, it just works in a way that doesn’t get on my way and that’s all it needs to be
DEs from one distro to another can feel different too, idk what it is about Manjaro but it feels so much more responsive than KDE’s own distro. So I think it’s worth trying our different distros even with the same desktop environment
true, like cinnamon is perfect on mint, but for example fedora cinnamon feels very wrong. it’s been a while since i tried it, but it definitely wasn’t as stable, and i had to change a lot of stuff from dconf editor, like for example the location bar in the file manager always defaulted to text mode even if you switched it to link mode
And I absolutely hate Gnome. But thank god we have over a dozen DEs to choose from. One of the great things about Linux is user choice.
Exactly. You can install your beloved distro with just what software you want there, because it’s your fucking device
This guy has a preference that differs from mine! Get him! /s
Yeah idk, I tried Pop with GNOME and just wasn’t feeling it. Switched to Mint Cinnamon and it’s a little more intuitive for me. I’m just a general user, gonna game if/when costs come down enough to build a desktop to replace my 2015 laptop. By then, I’m sure another distro will be a better fit for me. There are options for a reason.
Do you have to run GNOME with PopOS? I was thinking of trying PopOS
cannot recommend pop with their new cosmic DE, it’s quite bad. looks nice at first, but the more you dive in, the more it lacks basic stuff and you start noticing soo many little bugs and annoyances. had it on my laptop for a while, eventually just installed gnome. it started crashing frequently and suddenly i could no longer start steam, so i just installed ultramarine since it has been playing nice on my desktop. and it has just worked since.
Pop now uses cosmic
mint/cinnamon was definitely the best i found until i checked out kde neon. mint still has a better package ecosystem but in neon everything feels slickly designed.
What’s the difference between plasma and neon
neon is the full kde distribution i guess, you can install standalone as its own os. plasma is just the desktop manager shell, can possibly be installed on top of other distributions. (im probably not using the correct terms.)
Oh, that makes sense. I have EndeavourOS with KDE as my desktop environment, but I’m still learning what’s plasma vs. kwin vs. sddm vs. x11…
Like I get one’s the graphical shell, one’s the window manager, one’s the desktop manager, and one’s the compositor, but what each one does and how their responsibilities differ is still kinda foggy to me.
It makes sense that neon is the distro, though. That makes sense because I saw it listed as an option when I chose Endeavour.
I like gnome on my older gaming desktop. It’s a 2080 ti so when i installed plasma was not super stable on nvidia but I wouldn’t change it, arc menu + dash panel and I’m all set. I prefer kde on the laptop though. All the extra bells and whistles feel more useful on a laptop (no mouse).
It’s GNOME for me
Sicko
That gave me a good laugh. Gnome doesnt feel right to me at all man. To each his own.
But yea, sicko fr
No kink shaming! Bsdm is a valid way of life! (Or so I wa told)
Openbsdm or Freebsdm though?
I love Gnome. People love to hate it, but it’s workflow is SO good.
I think people just get annoyed that they can’t force it to be whatever they want it to be. Which is fine, that’s why other options exist!
But if you really go to the content-focused, workspace + keyboard shortcut flow Gnome is incredibly efficient, consistent, and stable.
Unpopular opinion #2: I love libadwaita and GTK4. Basically, I enjoy when devs are opinionated about things and build what they want to see in the world.
The adaptive part of libadwaita is really exciting for different form factors!
Same, and the OS is Ubuntu for me. I use my computer to get stuff done, not for distrohopping (though that’s also a perfectly valid usecase if you find it fun 👍)
Yeah. I was also at Ubuntu after couple years of distro hopping, until they made a change I didn’t like so I just hopped to Debian and been there past 3 releases
I’ve yet to see anything that compares to kde, and I just don’t understand why so many distros default to gnome!
Gnome is the most stable DE with all features included, it also has minimal amount of system options to still have all features.
XFCE misses a lot of features, such as printers. KDE has all bells and whistles but is less stable.
KDE is not unstable, even heavily tweaked
Because vanilla kde looks whack
Red Hat has invested so much in GNOME they will probably never want to hear about changing to KDE Plasma. And Suse will follow Red Hat (which never made sense to me).
SuSE use KDE as the default, them and Manjaro are the only two bigguns that do, really
Not the Suse professional edition that I tested a couple of weeks ago. Only the community editions default to KDE.
Never had a problem with XFCE, even doing some weird stuff with metrics in the task bar.
Though I do not tinker like I did when I was younger, nor do I know what Plasma has over XFCE that’s not cosmetic in nature.
Lxqt and i3 4lyfe
Using a Chromebook you gotta levy usage with processing ability.
Cinnamon > KDE
i have tried kde and i cannot understand how so many people love it and hate gnome
It’s not that I “hate” Gnome, I still love Gnome 2 and Cinnamon by extension, but the workflow of Gnome 3 just sucks balls for me. I can tolerate the workflow of any other DE, but Gnome 3 is just right out.
Gnome 3 abruptly removed app icons from the desktop moved taskbar to the top of the screen, and broke Alt-Tab. That’s why prople hate Gnome and love KDE, because KDE did not break these features.
I was really surprised how great the workflow of paperWM is. If you like a “scroller” with a working DE and don’t want to configure niri: give it a try. I don’t even want tilers anymore.
since Plasma 6.5 I just daily drive it now. prior to that I was all about WM’s be it Herbstluftwm, Sway, Niri, whatever but after awhile I just got tired of configuring them or dealing with quirks about each one and what have you. Plasma just does everything I need and I don’t have to think about it. And you can even get it to tile now be it manual or dynamic. Plus you can theme the hell out of it. It just works. Plus Konsole has become my favourite terminal. just don’t see a point in using other stuff anymore.
“Am I interested in other DEs?” and “Will I install them?” are two different questions though. Yeah, I had fun running i3 years back, but i3 isn’t the new hotness anymore, and there’s not a snowball’s chance in hell of me feeling like I have the time to learn and configure another WM. Absent my suddenly striking it rich and having entirely too much free time, I sincerely doubt there will come another time where I feel like I have that sort of time and nothing I’d rather use it for than such a mundane and endless task.
Just switch to sway. As far as I know, the config should be compatible (if you swap the complex utils for Wayland ones). But I haven’t tried it (I do use river and really like it though, so I do recommend sway).
Edit: see this:https://github.com/swaywm/sway/wiki/i3-Migration-Guide
I’ve been using KDE for years but right now I think Cosmic is neat
I would love to give GNOME an honest try, but there are so many ways in which it feels like it’s actively working against me. In KDE I can for example create as many panels as I want on as many monitors as I want. On GNOME? There’s an extension to put the panel on another monitor, but then you can’t use the dock. I guess the GNOME developers don’t use multiple monitors? I mean you can’t even set different wallpapers on different monitors without a third party application.
As for Niri, Hyprland and all that… Yeah, they’re cool, but I’m too old nowadays. I just want shit to work, even though I do miss some of the functions that exist e.g. on Hyprland that doesn’t exist in KDE. But on the other hand, the developer of Hyprland is an asshole, so I wouldn’t really want to promote or use the project anyway.
to me, gnome seems to be just bad ui design for people with stockholm syndrome about it.
I know when I reload it wont be kde.
After using Hyprland for 2 years I can say it’s my favorite am by far for fun and productivity, however it’s not stable at all
I’ve found hyprland itself is very stable, but what you run on top of it often compromises that. Using end 4 dots as a base on cachy has been a superb experience for me. Had a lot of issues with my completely custom hypr on tumbleweed (not tumbleweed’s fault tho)
Did anyone only just realise the smoking man in the background
