• Yliaster@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    You can keep insisting I’m a troll if it helps you deal with not being able to engage with arguments.

    China is authoritarian, but authoritarianism doesn’t matter to you, so that shouldn’t matter to you. Consistency, please.

    And no, countries aren’t “authoritarian” by necessity. Even if some amount of policies etc that would be considered such exist everywhere, you have countries that are freer and countries that have more political suppression, censorship of media outlets, etc etc.

    China does censor it’s media—political and entertainment— heavily. Just one small example.

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      How much Chinese media do you watch? How much time have you spent on Chinese social media? How fluent are you in Chinese? Or did you just get told this by other white people and decided to just go along with it because it confirms your biases.

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          Find a graph of these views over time, history is not a series of static snapshots. The PRC has been regularly improving with respect to queer rights and representation over time, showing no signs of stopping.

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            They’re still banning TV shows/clips that feature queer stories or characters, there’s been literal police raids where people have been asked to remove rainbow articles of clothing, rainbows are censored on TV. This is all very recent stuff within the past five years.

            Idk man, seems like they’re desperate to erase our existence if you ask me.

            Even if it’s not “as bad” as it once was, and if it “has potential”, that’s not where it is right now. Which is that it’s an oppressive place for queer people right now, factually. Stop defending that.

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              I’m not defending repression, I’m pointing out that you’re using queer identity as a club to beat a country that is steadily improving and showing no signs of slowing or stopping that growth. It’s the same logic on your part that Zionists use to say queer advocates for Palestine are “defending homophobia.” History and social progress exist as a progression of time, not as a static snapshot.

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                    You did? I must have missed it, last I recall the first thing you did was point to future projections to defend China, not say that China does have a problem with oppressing its queer people (I said it because it didn’t seem like you were about to).

                    It’s almost as if China is this immaculate state of perfection that can’t actually have real problems in the way it does things. I have yet to see you make any effort to criticize China so far.

                    future “potential” isn’t my concern here, as I said— I’m talking about how the country currently is.