Saw a post without noticing the community and commented a genuine comment with good intentions.

Apparently it was against the rules of that community and I was banned.

Original post:

My (removed) comment:

And yeah, the last comment was sarcasm.

I just don’t really understand why is there a community for shitting on Linux? Like I can get not liking it, and hating the Linux die hard fans, but it really is an amazing thing that is integral to almost all modern computing… Kind of like hating social media by having a facebook page for it.

  • teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
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    There was a time when there was an annual “Linux Sucks” presentation that I liked because it was a roundup of candid, yet constructive criticism of Linux (and then at some point the person running that went off the deep end and started yelling about woke agendas).

    I wouldn’t mind there being a whole community devoted to pointing out shit that is poorly designed or just broken when running linux, and we as a community then try to fix them or find workarounds.

    But as others have pointed out, that community isn’t a community, it’s literally just one account hanging out by themselves.

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      I wouldn’t mind there being a whole community devoted to pointing out shit that is poorly designed or just broken

      But isn’t that every linux forum?

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        Yeah, but I think it can feel too much like a circle jerk around here sometimes. I get that people want to win over new users, but some of it goes too far I think. The fact is Linux isn’t perfect, and while no OS is, there are some critical things you can do on Windows that are still a pain in the ass on Linux. Some of that is a vendor/proprietary software problem, but a good chunk of it is just people being willing to overlook a thin layer of jank in their normal workflows.

        I think we’d all be better off to all acknowledge and clean up the jank rather than try to pretend it’s fine as is.

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          To be fair, Windows has its own jank. As someone who is forced to use Windows 11 for work, I’m much happier putting up with the minimum Linux jank I’ve experienced compared to the Windows jank.

          If any of that made sense.

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      There is a guy that is a Linux dev, that maintains* a list of what sucks about linux, its very comprehensive–but a bit dated. He alao has same for Windows. I will have to look for the link

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      " that community isn’t a community, it’s literally just one account hanging out by themselves."

      Is it though? Here’s a screenshot from comfy@lemmy.ml showing 2 other contributors (and this isn’t chat; I’m not here to ‘hang out’).

      It’s also new and trending. Even on Reddit’s r/linuxsucks, I was a prolific poster, and continue as such on r/desktoplinuxsucks.

      Maybe just admit being butt-hurt or mute, because you aren’t the intended audience and it brings you discomfort. -Thanks

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        4 months ago

        Lol that’s actually hilarious. So but, why not comment on your posts too? Each post is just sitting there with an empty comments section.

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          I got into mostly posting rather that commenting because of the hostility of Linux evangelists / brigaders. -Posts can’t yield negative karma on reddit. My comment is typically in the form of the title or in the customization / creation of the meme.

          Maybe you’re still thinking back to when it was new; there are some posts from today (or a matter of a couple hours) with 3 comments already. It’s funny how people are criticizing it when there’s some adjustment (getting the right audience / parcipation) to be done in the face of a brigading / evangelizing issue from people it’s not meant for. I didn’t bring a community, and I’m not going to recruit for here from the reddit subs.

          It’s unlikely that anyone is going to come along and contribute anywhere near as much as I do. -I don’t see the problem with that. Progress is happening and we are continually on the trending lists. IMO it’s working.

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            4 months ago

            I’m all for it. All publicity is good publicity in this space. Open criticism is the first step to better open software.

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        4 months ago

        I’d argue dedicating your personality to hating something is much weirder than being a fanboy of it, especially when that thing is a piece of technology nobody is forcing you to use.

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        I don’t see irony there. I think calling this FOSS community ‘filled with Linux-crazed people’ is a stretch, but even then, it’s very different to:

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        or even just hating a niche product whatsoever. It’s not like Linux is EEE’ing or being invasive, so it’s hard to equivocate being a passionate fan to being a passionate hater.

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    Apparently it was against the rules of that community and I was banned.

    Sounds like they’ve done you a favour. Now you don’t have to see their random hater circlejerk community again.

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    It’s like going to a vegan community saying “meat isn’t so bad”. You’re obviously not going to get good responses.

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    When I was on reddit the ones spouting the most linux hate seemed to fall into two main categories.

    1. those that tried it like 15 years ago and still hold a grudge.

    2. dudes who heard people rave about linux but they themselves struggled with certain concepts when trying it out. And rather than realize they need to read instructions and learn new things, instead would rather blame linux for not working as expected.

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    I don’t understand why so many people take the existence of linuxsucks communities so personally, the reddit version has more linux users defending it than actual hate, but that one was more meant as a “legitimate grievances against linux” community as opposed to what the lemmy version seems to be.

    Just block and ignore like anything else. Its okay if there are people that don’t like the thing you like.

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    I’m not sure if it’s related but there was an annual symposium called “Linux Sucks”. It was a gathering of mostly Linux developers. The idea was to find the ways Linux sucks and develop ideas to fix the suck.

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    Deciding Linux isn’t for you is one thing. Even deciding that you hate Linux is… Digestible. But what kind of internal self esteem and validation issues do you need to unironically participate in a community called “Linux sucks”?

    Hating Linux is one thing. Putting in extra effort to justify to everyone that Linux is hate-able is a different kind of crazy.

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    My guess: the mod is sittin there posting memes on his gentoo-machine and laughing his ass of, because someone’s taking his community serious.

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    I read it as a jokey community and maybe you took it too seriously. Regardless that’s a kinda silly comment to leave. That’s a community for, ironically or seriously, hating Linux, so obviously it’s not in the spirit of the community to leave a serious comment defending Linux.

    I see a lot of Windows hate on Lemmy. If someone made a post here complaining about how much they hate Windows, and a Windows fan replied explaining why Windows is so great, I would say it’s kinda heavy-handed but not totally ridiculous for a mod to ban them, since a Linux community is probably not for this person.

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      The guy made 3+ pages of posts shitting on linux, all while nobody else posted and 95% of the posts were downvoted to shit. Nobody was laughing, the guy made real arguments, and genuinely seemed to have an issue with linux. I never detected any satire presonally.

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    Whether it’s a rage-click community, a community made for an agenda, or both, I don’t know, but in either cases, I wouldn’t see as surprising for the mods in such a community to be very trigger-happy. Best you can do, I think, is to block communities and individuals with such a profile, and to recommend others to not engaging (remember to explain why if you do it, btw).

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    Yeah, that guy’s not joking.

    It’s not some kayfabe act. He is sincere in all of that posturing assholery.

    Block and move on.

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    Unrelated but I got banned from the atheist memes community for calling one of the mods memes a boomer Facebook meme.