The truth on the other hand, is the unshakable reality that has driven every sanction, every sabotage attempt, and every assassination plot since 1959: Cuba is a threat only to an idea. It is a threat to the imperial doctrine that a small, poor nation in America’s ‘backyard’ must not be allowed to choose socialism, to provide free healthcare and education, and homes to live without the permission of Washington.
For this sin of self-determination, the crime of building a society where capital is not god, Cuba has been punished with the most enduring economic siege in modern history. This is not an ‘embargo’, which I consider to be a sterile, political term. It is a total blockade, designed to constrict and cripple. It is enforced by a plethora of laws with names like the Helms-Burton Act, which terrorises foreign companies from trading with the Island and allows the US to seize ships in international waters. Its goal, as US politician Robert Torricelli once admitted, was to…
‘Wreak havoc’.
“One of”. This is US history we’re talking about - the bar is in orbit.
True.
What the US is doing right now? It goes further back…
And because all of this shit they have been throwing on the Cuba, they can claim socialism doesn’t work.
And yet Cuba has higher life expectancy than the US lmfao
Obviously. By now, they have selected for unkillable Cubans.
Your joke is “haha Cuban people dying to sanctions is fun”? Not funny at all.
That can change quickly once US intervention goes hot
Small Island nation resists the world’s largest and most advanced military for 70 years. Develops state of the art health care system, modernizes energy and transportation, becomes a global tourist hotspot, all under US blockade
Socialism doesn’t work
Exactly!
I would say resisting 66 years of unceasing hybrid warfare from the biggest superpower in the world right next door is pretty good sign of resilient and working system.
That’s definitely a bonus for them
The fact that there has not been a unified Latin American defence coalition against the US formed is crazy to me. Us in the USA want (and more desperately need) liberation from our leadership.
The fact that there has not been a unified Latin American defence coalition against the US formed is crazy to me.
There has been one. It’s just composed of imperial powers and their corporate proxies.
The defense coalition existed to intercede against slave revolts, anti-colonial nationalism, and Communist uprisings. It has been very successful.
Us in the USA want (and more desperately need) liberation from our leadership.
Join the club
Wanting and having the will to do what needs doing are different things.
That is true. A significant number of people are though in Minnesota. I am working to spread the GS to other states but I am very far away from Minnesota.
Isn’t that why usa/cia do so much to keep them disablized?
B-b-b-bingo
America: ill do it again
If we got to vote for it sure. But we have no voice. This is just assholes doing asshole things.
I dunno, maybe helping to almost end the world in 1962 plays a small part in it.
Maybe study the whole story before writing. From Wikipedia:
In 1961, the U.S. started deploying 15 Jupiter IRBM (intermediate-range ballistic missiles) nuclear missiles near Izmir, Turkey, which directly threatened cities in the western sections of the Soviet Union. These missiles were regarded by President John F. Kennedy as being of questionable strategic value; a nuclear submarine was capable of providing the same cover with both stealth and superior firepower. In the late 1950’s missile technology was well developed in the field of medium-range ballistic missiles (MRBMs), as opposed to ICBMs (intercontinental-ballistic missiles) which could not be kept in a state of readiness at all times.
MRBMs represented only a small portion of the total American nuclear arsenal, but still much larger than the U.S.S.R.'s. Soviet strategists realized that some nuclear equality could be efficiently reached by placing missiles in Cuba. Soviet MRBMs on Cuban soil, with a range of 2,000 km (1,200 statute miles), could threaten Washington, DC and around half of the U.S. SAC bases (of nuclear-armed bombers), with a flight time of under twenty minutes. In addition, the U.S.'s radar warning systems oriented toward USSR would have provided little warning of a launch from Cuba.
Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev had publicly expressed his anger at the Turkish deployment, and regarded the missiles as a personal affront. The deployment of missiles in Cuba - the first time Soviet missiles were moved outside the USSR - is commonly seen as Khrushchev’s direct response to the Turkish missiles.
Oh Lord, he broke out fedopedia…
I am aware of the whole story. It still doesn’t change the fact that they were complicit in almost ending the world. I will say that it doesn’t excuse America’s current behavior.
What a fascist bootlicking take. Blaming Cuba for the US deploying nuclear weapons on an apocalyptic scale AND STILL FUCKING DEPLOYING THEM DOING TO THIS DAY.
You must really have your head shoved waaay up the eagle’s rotten asshole to come up with something that backwards.
Less complicit than the USA, and Cuba didn’t play a role in any of the other ways the USA has PERHAPS SUCCESSFULLY ended the world.
So you support Chinese reclamation of Taiwan
Maybe if the US hadn’t tried to invade Cuba the year before they wouldn’t have requested Soviet assistance. Also maybe the US shouldn’t have placed nukes in Turkey if it didn’t want the soviets to do something similar.
shit americans say
If only Cuba had been the sole player in that saga. Instead of a pawn between the USSR and USA.
True, true, true…
Except for Castro publicly going on about how Russia should have never backed down.
I’ve been to Cuba. Communism rots people’s drive. The US hasn’t helped but their dictatorship and failed political regime is the root of Cuba’s misery
“Autarky doesn’t work” is something that all economists - from the Marxist to the Austrian - agree on. Every country must exchange the commodities and resources it can produce for the ones it can’t. The large countries blessed with large populations and an abundance of resources (USA, Russia, et al) can get away with a bit better. But a small, resource-poor island with a centuries-long history of colonial exploitation? To imply that Cuba’s economic woes stem from anything other than being mostly cut off from international trade strains credulity.
Do people think that criticizing Cuba makes you not a socialist? Is that the kind of life you want for yourself? (Eating from the garbage)
That makes you similar to Noam Chomsky
What?
Cuba’s president can march with his people in the streets without needing security detail. Our politicians can’t.
Find a YouTube video Subtitles of any cuban In their daily lives
You are blaming the victim of US imperialism.
Agreed, after communism- no one wanted to work at my grandfather’s sugar plantation anymore.
He had to flee to Florida to make a living while raising the most annoying ingrates anyone’s ever had to interact with.
I think, based on conversations I have with people in real life and read online, that the people in the US haven’t challenged the 60 years of propaganda about Cuba, and believe it a totalitarian nightmare dictatorship.
I have a close friend who went to Cuba for ecological research (did you know they still have intact reefs) a few years ago, and when they would tell people they were going to Cuba, the most common reaction was a fearful “that’s scary” and a confused, almost accusatory “why”.
I don’t think they realize that everyone else can just go to Cuba, it’s only the blue US passport and a bunch of old white guys, and probably now more Cuban Americans, with their fear of communism and land reform stopping them from enjoying a very nice bottle of state owned rum and an experience of how other people live.
I’m glad other countries have been stepping up to help the people there, the Cuban people deserve happy and comfortable lives, and we clearly don’t have the appetite to stop starving them of that right now. Until we shake that propagandized view, I don’t imagine that will change either.
Obama I think floated an end to the shitbaggery during his second term. Like anything he proposed, it was stonewalled.
I think he actually lifted the travel embargo and aimed to normalize relations but the bazillionaires and still angry exbazillionaire diaspora faces started melting so 2016 was the end of that.
I don’t understand why I have to see this posted multiple times when I’ve blocked the poster over and over.
I guess you can’t escape the truth
“A lie travels quickly, but the truth endures.”
genuinely what about this post is so offensive to you that you desperately need to block the poster
We are going to keep posting it until you understand.
Add that to the endless list of war crimes that shithole empire did/does to rest of the world.
What what whaaaa??? I thought the US was a force for supreme goodness up until the millisecond that Trump became president.
This was most definitely the turning point. And just who were George Dubya, and Clinton, and Reagan, and Nixon, and goddamn Kissinger, and Robert McNamara, and the Dulles Brothers, and all the slave owners who founded the country?
A shining city upon a hill, manifest destiny, exceptionalism. Well-meaning promoters and protectors of democracy forever and always. Just what would the rest of the world do without you?
/s in case anyone actually needs it.
Worse than what Israel is doing to Palestine?
One thing that’s worth noting is that Israel and the US are the two countries that voted against making food a human right at the UN and both are actively committing genocide via starvation.
These two processes are actually intrinsically connected and are part of a broader strategy I fear is only going to see more examples as climate collapse plays out. There’s going to be more groups that the imperialist powers will want to wipe out and ecosystem collapse will cause famines that a blockade can escalate into a mass death event.
They’re using the same strategies. Israel is farther along in the process.
No? That’s a weird deflection from the misery of a people, to point at other miserable people and imply, look they’re worse off so we can ignore everyone else. Or are you just lost, read a different piece, and replied to the wrong thing.
What you’re doing sure looks like deflection using whataboutism, but why deflect something you’re not at fault for? You don’t have to help the US government defend their actions.
They’re trying to do essentially the same thing so idk why you wanna make it into the war crimes olympics over there, unless you’re some shit lib attempting to diminish the crimes of these wretched states
Both are worse and coming to USA.
Not yet, but it’s a similar action with a similar goal
Iran
Not really. Call me when they’re bombing hospitals and schools.
So, it’s only similar when it’s the same? Words have meaning, you know?
They don’t need to because they can simply starve them instead
It is essentially genocide.
Please provide a definition so we can frame your argument.
I don’t know about that. Genocides don’t usually take 80 years, as the population grows. I don’t think that fits the description.
Genocides don’t usually take 80 years
Found the Israeli
Zionist.
Ok shitlib
Not a Lib, loser.
What you say you are doesn’t matter. It’s what you believe and do that decides what you are. And you are running defense for the US genocide using the same tired talking points that are used to deny every genocide.
What we say or do or are doesn’t matter. Your need for strawmen does.
“strawmanning” is a rhetorical fallacy where you point out the logical conclusions that are to be drawn from a person’s statements <- you, an imbecile <- An actual strawman, but just barely.
Learn what the logical fallacies are if you want to throw them out, you moron
Im not the one conflating decades of “embargo” (still fucking horrendous btw) largely dictated by the economic choices of shipping companies whether to serve cuba or the U.S. (hint: companies that make money will choose the profitable option) with the recent extreme escalations by the Trump admin which are attempting to tighten it into a full blockade (which I shouldn’t need to tell you since they’ve been really fucking overtly vocal about their actions and intentions)
I don’t know what youre talking about I’ve been calling for the end of the Cuban Embargo since the end of the Soviet Union.
The Cuban embargo made good political sense to pressure the Soviets when they were trying to use Cuba as a nuclear base to bomb us from, and any country would have done the same, in the face of the same threat.
But that threat is gone, and the embargo has just become casual cruelty, which is the MAGA hobby. Of course they can’t help but crank it up to 11. That’s MAGA for you. If they see chance to hurt someone, they can’t resist.
Now the embargo just drives the Cubans deeper into the arms of Mother Russia. Lifting the embargo, and flooding them with American products, tourists, and lower prices would do far more to break their connection than anything else.
The Cuban embargo made good political sense to pressure the Soviets when they were trying to use Cuba as a nuclear base to bomb us from, and any country would have done the same, in the face of the same threat.
If you werent a lib you’d know that the US and NATO were the escalating/aggressing party, shitlib.
I do know that, and I also know that the whole thing was over and all bombs removed from both Turkey and Cuba by 1963. The embargo continued to keep Russia from re-arming Cuba, and it worked. However, after the fall of the Soviet Union, it should have been lifted. Continuing it has been cruel, and dumb, and both Republican and Democrat presidents are guilty.
The Cuban embargo made good political sense to pressure the Soviets when they were trying to use Cuba as a nuclear base to bomb us from, and any country would have done the same, in the face of the same threat.
- yeah the evil Soviets just wanting to bomb us for no good reason. Hey, when did the U.S. try to put nukes in Italy and turkey again? Oh, huh
) Dawg there’s a memo from the office of the secretary for inter american affairs from 1960 detailing the specific plan for the embargo to cause hunger, desperation and consequent counter revolution. Translation: “we’re going to starve Cuba until they do what we command”
The cuban missile crisis wasn’t until two years later. They intensified the embargo FEBRUARY 1962 and the missile crisis didn’t begin until the END of that year. But yeah sure uh the missiles after the fact totally justify an overtly stated goal of starving civilians for political change (hey what’s the definition of terrorism again btw)
going off about MAGA nonsense as if Joe Biden did anything to end the embargo
Oh my god, liberal. Liberal! Liiiiiiibeeeeerrrrraaaaaaallllll! As if your “actually putting missiles in cuba would have justified starving them” statement wasn’t enough confirmation on its own. Christ
Heh-heh, America isn’t the only place with ridiculous propaganda.
This kind of ad hominem is not going to convince undecided people of your view
Attempted genocide
That’s not how it works. If there’s an organized effort to exterminate a group of people because of their immutable characteristics (in this case nationality) it’s genocide. You can be guilty of the crime of genocide even if you don’t kill a single person. The US embargo absolutely meets the criteria and has already caused thousands of excess deaths (as well as underdevelopment) over the course of decades. It’s like Gaza, blocking off a group of millions of people from being able to get anything from the rest of the world and restricting the flow of basic necessities. They don’t have to kill any specific number of people for that to count as genocide, it just is.
Yeah I suppose it is better to have made an actual argument instead of just “owning” the commenter, and you are correct, it is not merely an attempted genocide, which would be something like a guy in the government trying to organise a genocide but failing to organise and accomplish anything.
Time period is irrelevant.
Intentionally disrupting a countries ability to prosper and sustain itself with the end goal being loss of lives of those citizens is still genocide.
Bombs or starving. Doesn’t matter the method.
Killing off civilians of a state is genocide.
I don’t agree on this, but I do think it’s shaping up rapidly to become one. We will see in a couple of months, but any tropical cyclone or natural phenomena has a huge destructive potential in Cuba right now.
I had no problem with Cuba. Nice place to visit in winter. No Americans.
“People in socialist countries starve because we starve them”
Why the quotes?
I’m saying the US basically says this.
