• MotoAsh@piefed.socialBanned
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    12 days ago

    You have to pay for tokens on many of the “AI” tools that you do not run on your own computer.

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        11 days ago

        I think many of them do, but there are also many “AI” tools that will automatically add a ton of stuff to try and make it spit out more intelligent responses, or even re-prompt the tool multiple times to try and make sure it’s not handing back hallucinations.

        It really adds up in their attempt to make fancy autocomplete seem “intelligent”.

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          11 days ago

          Yes, reasoning models… but i dont think they would charge on that… that would be insane, but AI executives are insane, so who the fuck knows.

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      11 days ago

      Hmm, interesting theory. However:

      1. We know this is an issue with language models, it happens all the time with weaker ones - so there is an alternative explanation.

      2. LLMs are running at a loss right now, the company would lose more money than they gain from you - so there is no motive.

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          No, it wasn’t a virtue signal, you fucking dingdongs.

          Capitalism is rife with undercooked products, because getting a product out there starts the income flowing sooner. They don’t have to be making a profit for a revenue stream to make sense. Some money is better than no money. Get it?

          Fuck, it’s like all you idiots can do is project your lack of understanding on others…

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        11 days ago

        Of course there’s a technical reason for it, but they have incentive to try and sell even a shitty product.

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            10 days ago

            How does it not? This isn’t a fucking debate. How would artificially bloating the number of tokens they sell not help their bottom line?

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              Because they currently lose money for every token sold. They’re operating at a loss to generate a userbase so that they can monetize later. They’re currently in the pre-enshittification (I still don’t like that word) phase where they want to offer a good product at a loss and lure in customers, not phase 2 where they monetize their userbase.

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                8 days ago

                and? How do you not understand that more money is better for them even if they’re not in the black, yet?

                Two things can be true at once.

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                  Creating additional tokens LOSES them money. For a single token, the cost of generating it exceeds the profits.

                  I genuinely don’t understand what would drive someone to be this condescending when you don’t even understand the argument I have clearly laid out four times now.

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                    7 days ago

                    Do you think they don’t want people using their product? Are you really that dense?