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This meme itself feels like AI slop. Also, as a dual user, AI is really not that prelevant on Windows, as opposed to my android phone. Not sure how things are on iPhone, but I heard apple intelligence is going “great”
AI slop + it doesn’t make much sense to begin with
It’s not the automatic Updates themselves making Windows bad lol
Totally agree.
And here OP proves perfectly how Windows Updates have done a ton of collective damage to security by being a terrible experience.
Software MUST be always updated.
but then it breaks or the design team needed to justify its salary again or…
Then the problem lies with the software. Not updating it is not a solution
despite Debian propaganda (/hj)
Obligatory reminder that the newest version of O&O ShutUp helps you delete Copilot completely from your Windows installation if you have to use Windows.
I’m afraid it will break something on my work laptop if I were to use a tool like that. All my personal devices are Linux, just not the work laptop.
Why is the image 5MB?
AI slop
It’s unusual that Linux users are so cool with tinkering to get everything exactly how they want. Unless it’s windows. No tinkering for them there.
It could have something to do with Microsoft ensuring you cannot tinker with Windows to get everything exactly how you want 🤷♀️
Sounds like a skill issue.
It is. Some have the skills for Linux
You cannot tinker windows though.
For Linux it’s customization and preferences, for Windows it’s using regedit to completely break your system by removing features the core OS uses for some reason like Cortana/Search and Copilot, etc.
Everything you don’t want is baked in to the core.
one needs third party apps of questionable trustworthiness and even then you can’t definitively verify it isn’t periodically screenshotting everything you do and uploading it with your unique tpm tied to it
I’d like to meet one Linux user who hasn’t run a user script they didn’t read every line of to ensure it didn’t do anything it shouldn’t do.
The irony that the meme has multiple popups about AI being bad while the entire meme is AI-generated.
There are no such popups though. The issue on Windows is that Microsoft is pushing AI everywhere, whether you want it or not. But the OP allegedly used AI as a tool to generate this image when they wanted to.
I agree. Can’t quite put my finger on it… maybe the window behind the monitor? I try not to assume simply because of the style, but the lack of author credit makes it hard to check anyway.The weird thing is it wouldn’t at all be hard to draw by hand.
I think it’s the speech bubbles
Check out the random items on the desk. They make no sense.
But yes, the biggest giveaway is those slightly blurry pop ups and that not-quite-comicsans font you see in all that slop.
It’s also the font on the pop-ups, and the AI logo.
There’s a very generic style of Facebook cartoon that these things absolutely nail.
It’s also the total failure of a punch line in the second frame. Just so robotic sounding.
keyboard
Left side. There is a thing next to the books and the handle of the coffee cup is wonky.
ever since i switched linux i even get excited when i see a tzdata update.
The AI Generated anti AI Meme.
Also, the example has nothing to do with updating or not.
What makes you think, that this is AI
What’s with the random comma? It makes absolutely no sense. And then you decided to not use a question mark, both those things are just so odd. And HOW do you not see that it’s an AI generated image? This whole comment section is about how obvious it is, with many examples why. It almost feels like your comment is some rage bait shit.
The typical Font, the typical drawing style
It is generally
- not a known meme template
- not a „normal” font style like impact, used by most no effort memes
–> pretty big effort
- maybe artist?
–> no Mark, not known like xkcd, pizzacake, cyanide and happiness (which would have been most likely)
- pretty typical AI font style, weird curly but at the same time straight font
- also the outlines remind me really much of AI slop
also the ai junk lines close to the books
That looks more like the general „Lines instead of actual text” used by many artists
Not really an AI thing
DOS user: updates? I can set the date in the BIOS if I need…
Lucky you had a motherboard with a CMOS battery. Without that*, you needed to enter the time and date every time the computer booted / rebooted.
* Or a capacitor instead.
There’s also the part where a windows update unlocks a new kind of fear: “what will it break this time?”
A linux update instead brings the joy of “nice! New things everyone was waiting for!”
Thank you for your summary of the meme above
You’re welcome, user whose only post in here was, literally, two words: “six seven”!
You really know how to contribute to this community!
My post was something new while that comment is a retelling of the exact same thing every Lemmy user has commented ever
You invented 67? Damn, how’s it feel to have something be globally popular.
except nvidia drivers.
fuck nvidia.
Might be off topic, but does anyone else dread the outcome of their Linux system after an update?
It seems like I always time my updates at the time when things go wrong. It makes me not even want to update my system at all, because it usually involves a lot of pain to get it back to a working AND updated state.
For example, last month on the 20th, I updated openSUSE Tumbleweed through zypper dup. All is well, and everything updated just fine. Well, after that update, I noticed Dolphin (the file browser that comes with KDE I think) crashes when creating a new folder in any of my drives, whether it be the main OS drive or one of my many HDDs inside of the computer case, or my NAS. Doesn’t matter, I go to create the folder, name it, and as soon as it is made, Dolphin freezes.
Well, I learned earlier this year that if my system is booting normally and able to play games (all I really care about to be honest), I REALLY shouldn’t touch it because the next update might break my stuff again. Well, on the 27th, I updated through zypper dup, and what do you know, my GEProton stuff no longer works. So, I spent the entire afternoon trying to figure out what I can do to get it working again, fail, boot back into a snapshot from before the update.
So, I just wanted to know what everyone else feels about updating their systems, especially if you have a similar use case like mine. :/
No, but every system I’ve put together so far has been either ultra basic or specifically purchased for Linux compatibility.
Your system might need some variety of priest by the sound of it, though I’ve had my own set of weirdness, so I can’t judge. I just found out the reason native Linux games have been such pigs is because the integrated graphics nothing was supposed to use was being used.
This kind of thing is why backups / snapshots are so important to do. On Linux we actually get that option so much more easily than on Windows, so it’s worth doing. On Windows, updates are painful enough that out of habit I just reinstall Windows every year to head this problem off.
Not trying to minimize your pain, it’s something I had to learn to deal with too and it does take time and energy to properly resolve, which isn’t free. The experience will also vary dramatically between distros and hardware.
Lastly if you’re a long time Windows user try to remember what it was like when you were new, when you had no idea how the pieces connect to each other; it takes time to get into the groove.
Oh, definitely! I am by no means trying to say Linux is inferior in anyway whatsoever, but I do think they need people like me to use the system in a way they may not have anticipated to have things improve for everyone, if that makes sense? Like, I can probably mess up most Linux installs simply by trying to replicate the workflow that has worked for me for years with no issues on Windows!
I don’t feel like you’re minimizing, I feel like you’re sharing your experience, and I appreciate you for that! I just feel like bringing these pain points up in the hope that someone might have an answer for me or others, I guess?
I started using Windows when I was 10 or 11, and got a virus, learned from it, and never had an issue with Windows again. I even learned how to mod my games back in those days (Oblivion with it’s simple enough for most things drag and drop modding). Basically, I can navigate most GUI and get the thing I was looking for working, but the moment you bring terminal commands to my eyeballs, I start thinking “this is how my machine gets ruined today, eh?” lol ;P
But, yes, once I got more comfortable in openSUSE and KDE, it is very hard to even consider going back to Windows or another distro since it took so much time for me to set my computer up the way I like it.
I dont even game on my Linux system and every time it updates I know I have a frustrating night ahead of me.
Maybe just an Ubuntu thing but actually my steam deck has had to roll back a few times as well… At least it had that option unlike Ubuntu.
Maybe it is because I am using mine for network related apps that they are always what breaks but man it seems like some major backed component gets a rewrite every so often just to see if it is better. I have had so many port issues and network issues it makes me want to be Amish. That and trying to get video thumbnails back that one time. Wasnt a total nightmare but weird that it took me days to figure out that apparently I had to delete the cache then reinstall ffmpegthumbnailer…
So, no, not alone. Hate updates. Hate them so much.Have you tried Nemo by the way? Kinda like it better than Dolphin.
I feel like if I didn’t game and use my computer the way I do, my Linux experience would be like most that you see on the web. “It just works!” and all of that.
The Steam Deck has had one hiccup in my two years on it, and I just put it away until the next update, and poof, all fixed! I also use Decky plugins, so that could’ve very well been my issue!
I definitely feel you on the backend stuff. I upgraded one time and noticed that I had to wait a few days if not a week until I could use one of my apps, Proton Mail Bridge I believe, since the window wasn’t showing except for the title bar and the minimize, fullscreen, and exit buttons.
It’s… really weird how it all works until it doesn’t, which isn’t something I have ever experienced on Windows, though I keep in mind that this is all a community effort and the operating system really is good at its core, but I think it needs some people like me or you to bring these pain points up so they are seen and maybe even worked on.
Give me a Linux install, and I’ll show you how easily a user can wreck it just trying to recreate a workflow that they have on Windows. ;P
EDIT: No, I haven’t tried Nemo, but I will now that you’ve recommended it! Does it have split tab stuff like Dolphin? That’s a feature I use every single day to easily move stuff around all of my drives and NAS. :)
I didn’t have problems with Linux in this regard but I did have them with Windows where it bricked itself after an update.
I am lucky enough to say that Windows has always been solid for me and I’ve never had any issues with anything I was trying to do with it.
On the other hand, I am usually just trying to play a game before the next day begins all over again, so I used ChrisTitusTech’s Windows Utility for fine grain control over when the system updates among the many other options it provides.
Basically, I set it up to not bother me with any updates except security updates for over 4 months, THEN the newer version can try to get installed. I haven’t had to use Windows except a handful of times since last December, so my memory may not be as clear as it should!
Sorry for the long wall of text! :)
I use Nixos, which has really good backed in rollbacks so not really. When I was on arch I did
Might be off topic, but does anyone else dread the outcome of their Linux system after an update?
Not really. I don’t really worry about that on most of my system. There is ONE computer where an update is a source of stress, and that’s my main gaming computer where I had to setup dualbooting with windows. I learned the hard way that my motherboard implementation of UEFI kinda want windows to be there, otherwise it’s very picky into which disk is parsed for EFI boot entries. But beyond that, nah. Laptop, desktop, company servers… just roll the update/upgrade, and the dist-upgrade when needed, fix the updated configs (for servers) and it’s good to go. Been this way for the last decade or so.
Worthy of note, I’m on ubuntu LTS (24.04 for now) or Debian stable (for servers), so not exactly outdated (I have the latest nvidia drivers…) but not bleeding edge either. I probably avoid a lot of issues this way.
Thank you for your reply!
Are you using the same drive for the dual boot? I ripped a spare SSD from a dead laptop a few years back, and installed tiny11 onto it and used my newer SSD for openSUSE. I’ve never had any issues this way, if that helps?
My system is really just for PC gaming, so I understand!
It sounds like maybe a rolling release distro like openSUSE Tumbleweed is not the best fit for you. The ‘fix the system after updates’ is supposed to be part of the fun for those that like rolling release.
I would suggest switching to a point release type distro, where you may end up with some bugs for a while, but they are the same bugs that you can figure out workarounds for.
edit: grammar
I don’t think distro hopping would be a good choice for me since I already have very little time to even game, let alone diagnose and fix my computer after what should be a simple update…
I’ve already painstakingly set my computer up the way I want it, which took days with the limited amount of time I have. It’s why I don’t want to update at all, actually, since when it is working fine, it’s working great. I also need the newer drivers and other stuff that a rolling release provides me, since I am trying to game mainly.
I can’t use immutable distros, because that over complicates me using my computer as my computer.
You don’t really need the newest drivers unless you want to play the newest games
I play games from the '90s all through the newest releases, so I do need the newest and most up to date drivers. Gaming is my hobby. :/
Fair enough, plenty of people just play a few years behind the current releases, so I just thought its worth mentioning. Sounds like you do need it tho
Hold off on updating and wait for the latest slow roll release and migrate to that? Long term try to migrate to a future Leap build? Big jumps while upgrading is usually when shit breaks.
As others said, that is part of the fun of rolling release.
If you enjoy openSUSE, what you want is their fixed release, openSUSE Leap. Theses are EOL in 24 months, but there are some built-in migration tools to help you upgrade to the next version when it comes out.
Remember to back up your data!
Yes, thank you, but when it comes to these point releases, I don’t want to have to practically reinstall the OS just for an update, if that makes sense? I appreciate the reply though, seriously! I just wanted to see what others had to say. :/
I mean its all just packages under the hood. Its not that technically different than any other system update. For openSUSE, you run
zypper dupinstead ofzypper patch.(Section 12.1.4 https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/leap/startup/html/book-startup/cha-update-osuse.html)
Note: I have never personally tried this nor used OpenSUSE ;)
Nope, I just update my systems, reboot and it work. I got an ubuntu with a NVIDIA GPU and Intel CPU for running docker containers. And a bazzite with and GPU and CPU. Both updated weekly or monthly depend of the time. 95% of the time I got no issues. Last time. Got issue was NVIDIA which forgot to package a docker dependency in a driver version and I had to jump to the last version to make it work. (I usually hot for version -1 to avoid the issues NVIDIA drivers cause in Linux)
Ah. I do have an NVIDIA GPU also, so how would I go about making sure that I use a specific version of the GPU drivers? I’ve been on openSUSE for over a year now, and it has mostly been smooth sailing, but I do not have a lot of time after work to diagnose my computer when I just want to relax for two or three hours before having to end the day and a new work day start…
For Ubuntu you install drivers with version like this nvidia-driver-550-server with 550 being the version of the driver. I think they are at 580 or 680.
Ah, I see. Yes, I think I have the newest open-drivers for NVIDIA, but on openSUSE, I don’t see an option for a specific driver. Maybe when I have more time I will see what I can find! Thank you! :)
mint is pretty friendly about that, thankfully. i’m just dreading an exactly linux mint update from like 22.2 to 22.3 or w/e but mostly because i’ve never done it yet (i just switched last march).
I really love my switch to linux. It’s not all sunshine and roses, i have some weird things that i can’t really fix. Some problems are “too hard” for me to fix and i don’t care enough. After installing Linux right after windows to dual boot, it’s so fucking nice to not have your computer trying to sell you shit all the time, and you don’t have to jump through hoops just to get you shit working.
What has been too hard to fix?
My laziness
The biggest gripe for me is completely disabling MMB copy-paste functionality and instead enabling autoscroll everywhere. Couldn’t achieve this in CachyOS, except for the browsers and maybe a few Electron-based applications.
Holding MMB to scroll like a touch screen drag also breaks canvas panning on MMB in Krita, so I had to disable it.
Basically, MMB behavior in CachyOS is really unappealing to a Windows user, but it seems to be baked into the system.
When my computer goes to sleep I no longer have audio when I resume using it. Unplugging and replugging my USB DAC is a workaround I’ve been using.
Yeah I’ve had similar problems. I use a usb/kvm switch to switch multiple laptops and desktops on a single monitor/keyboard/mouse. There should be a conf file somewhere that lets you set what gets switched when a usb gets plugged/unplugged or when the computer sleeps. I’m on my phone at the moment so I can’t easily look it up right now.
Let me know if you figure out where that is. Hopefully I can change that on Bazzite. Maybe I should consider hopping to base Fedora to avoid the atomic distro complications
Moved to CachyOS. Most things just worked. “update” is literally an alias that updates your OS and packages. Once had a bad update, snapshot rolled me back into action within 3 minutes.
With Windows that could warrant a reinstall/reimage if it’s bad enough. Fucking wild.
It’s not just AI, but new android phones drive me spare.
You can’t disable that. You can’t uninstall that. You can’t make a backup of the whole phone. You can’t make a backup of one app and restore it to a different phone, unless you go through Google. We’re going to install these apps you don’t want, and there’s no way to cancel it.
And even simple things like the gallery is so bad, scanning your whole phone. I want the gallery yo show my photos, not my video collection or downloaded images.
I’m not rich, but if I could I’d jump ship with my xiaomi 13t.
check out the fossify gallery app. not on play store probably. it can ignore folders, or only look in some
Already got it ☺️ from F-Droid.
Pretty sure you can achieve the same with the standard gallery and other media apps by putting an empty file called
.nomediain the folders you want the apps to ignore. I’m using a third-party gallery app, but seems that the feature is widespread (likely because of the apps relying on Android’s own media scanning).Doesn’t work for me.
And to be honest, it feels like the whole “windows is usable you just have to…” do things all the time (then it gets removed from time to time, or changed or ignored)
Thanks for the tip though!
Just to check, did you put in the dot at the beginning of the file name? It’s the convention for hidden files in Unixes. Could just be that Xiaomi forgot to support this feature in their app, of course, and a third-party one would fix that, like the open-source Simple Gallery.
Anyway, I’d guess most people are fine with the gallery showing downloaded images — I know I need that to find the meme I want.
Get a refurbished pixel and put grapheneos on it. Best thing I could ever do.
Yeah I need a good camera, and I heard the pixel is good. I’ll look into that, I can probably keep an older xiaomi for my banking app with all the google crap on it…
Actually, don’t rule out that your banking app works on Grapheneos! Mine is not marked as supported in the wiki and works!
I don’t have contactless payments because gpay doesn’t work, but it’s not a big deal (and it can be solved if you use curve or if you buy a garmin smartwatch)
Grapheneos ftw
And even if you want to install Android Android, not Google Android, you need to set up Google Android, agree to Google T&C to unlock your bootloader.
Universal Android Debloater.
It’s a community-rating systems for apps, and you can remove/permanently (even through os updates) disable them through ADB, without actually needing to know anything about ADB because uad comes in a nice GUI package.
I think I removed ~200 apps (most of them invisible, background ads stuff) from my phone. Much better experience.
My Android phone app started to show me “suggestions” instead of the call history. Geez, thanks Google. Instead of calling my GF, imma call a proctologist.
And I just know this feature will soon be used to serve me even more ads. I mean, the play store is bad enough as it is.DeGoogle your phone.
Source or it’s AI
Its obviously AI
Apart from my comment, here’s the tldr:
The outlines, the thought bubbles, the general senselessness of the meme and it not being tied to anything Linux users normally do, instead being based on stereotypical stuff regurgitated by most youtubers now
Also the Terminal on the left is just nonsense
Check out the daily slop of Eli the Computer guy, the thumbnails are all AI slop and generally you can really see the parallels once you look at those vs this image
Also the Terminal on the left is just nonsense
there is no terminal on the left?
On the right I mean. Specifically, an apt update neither upgrades the packages (only syncs the repo), nor should it magically change your shell to sh without giving you any output, except if you enabled the --silent option, which was not enabled in this case, and even then I’m pretty certain it would only cut out verbose output like the specific repos, but not the „synced repos. X packages can be upgraded” message.
right, makes sense
The font stands out, too.
Also this in another post from the same guy.
