And somehow every single time the problem was so easy to solve, but apparently crying about it is the better solution.

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    As always the best way to get a response on the internet is not to ask a question.

    The best way is to post a wrong answer.

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    Step (5): realise the lion’s share of people have no clue how anything works, and throwing a tantrum is their only (successful) technique to any technical problem.

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      When I worked as a system administrator, I discovered that most people would skip curiosity and go straight for anger and abuse. You collapsed a row in excel again and don’t remember how to undo it? Time to call helpdesk and yell at them how stupid they are for breaking your computer again.

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    I’ve switched to Linux because at this point it’s easier to deal with problems on Linux than using Windows and getting it to usable state.

    And if something doesn’t run on Linux… I use something else, easy as that.

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    Debianees will only answer your inquiry, however, if it is worded in a proper polite way. Here is a proper, polite way to ask for tech support.

    OMG! DEBIAN IS SO PATHETIC! IT CAN’T ________, BUT WINDOWS CAN _____ JUST BY CLICKING _______!

    Rushing to defend their precious Linux, they will give the most descriptive, polite, useful information possible. If you use “normal” manners though, you will most likely get flamed, insulted, and receive at least 10 viruses by email. All of which will be written in “1337”, for no appearent reason. Your IP will be traced, and eventually your Linux OS will be hijacked and destroyed. In some cases your CPU might melt from having to handle so much hacking by insecure “Debianees”.

    https://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/Debian

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    In the late 1990s/early 2000s, there was some satire article about how to get most effective Linux support. Just write an angry news/blog article about how Linux sucks because it doesn’t (insert the thing you’re having problems with here). You bet someone will immediately respond how you’re an idiot and you should (insert detailed explanation of how to fix the thing here).

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    How is this clown behavior? If anything, not accepting the proposed solution to the issue would be it

    This is more like, wisdom of the ancients kind of thing

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    Yeah? Try playing MYST VR with a quest 2 and Nvidia GPU.

    I love Linux, but sometimes I just wanna pin it against the wall and make violent love to it until my issue is fixed. Though usually the love making is more of a frustrating 6 hours of troubleshooting.

    BTW, are we allowed to sexualize an OS?

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      I had really bad performance with an nvidia GPU in VR in Linux, once, and all I could find that described the same specific issue I had was a steam community discussion post by someone who claimed that the steam vr compositor was just bugged, and no less that it was a bug regression, and there was nothing to do but wait for Valve to fix it. I think the post was already a year old when I found it.

      I haven’t tried it again, yet, but I’ve also moved to arch with Wayland since then. And the nvidia drivers did become much more reliable for me, so maybe it will magically work out of the box this time… Or maybe it won’t, and I’ll just end up wasting hours trying to find a solution while wading through AI polluted Google searches again before giving up.

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        This is honestly the only reason Linux is not my only OS. I have a laptop with an integrated and dedicated nvidia rtx3060 gpu, and Linux has trouble with the Nvidia drivers and I get stuttering in almost all games and 3d applications.

        I went into a discord specialised in lenovo Legion on linux, and even they couldn’t help me, though they were very helpful. My requirements aren’t even insane, I just want to slice files for my 3d printer without issues and play a 2d browser game from time to time.

        I’m still debugging it, it mug have to do with the power management firmware. But this is not ready for the mainstream consumer if its necessary to go this deep.

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      This.

      You cant decide about your instance? Well how the fuck did you decide to use reddit then instead of all the other forum based Websites then?

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    Fine, I’ll give this strategy a shot too: Linux is crap because when I switch USB audio interface with a switcher the audio becomes extremely borked likely because of buffer settings somehow changing, to me it feels like the buffer is too small and then all these audio crackling issues start propping up.

    Windows doesn’t have this issue whatsoever, it’s only when I switch back to Linux in the switcher that the audio is borked.

    Pipewire/Pipewire-pulse

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      I haven’t messed around with audio in a while, but a couple of years ago I did some home recording. And Linux at the time was horrible to use for recording. Got a bunch of latency and some other issues. I found a solution where one guy had written a bunch of scripts to deal with the buffering when switching audio driver. It helped, but it wasn’t perfect.

      No idea what the state of audio is now, but it used to suck. And it will probably suck for a while since the major DAWs are all on Windows/Mac. But I would love to be proven wrong

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        I use reaper on Linux to monitor my guitar coming in from Axe Fx 3’s spdif output with very low latency. What exactly was giving you issues with latency ?

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          Might have been the soundcard on my laptop, the old external soundcard I used or audio driver. No idea what the problem actually was. This was a couple of years ago, and I wasn’t very proficient in Linux. I gave up, and then haven’t tried again since.

          I used Reaper and an old soundcard from Steinberg. Don’t remember which drivers. Think I ran Ubuntu at the time.

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      I have a Bluetooth dongle headset-mic. Probably for the same buffer reason, it constantly breaks audio when I have multiple audios in/outs running.

      The only consistent fix is switching to another audio driver and playing a video on YouTube while I switch it back.

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        YouTube specifically? Or does it work as long as any audio is running? I usually leave games on and switch back in and the audio’s borked.

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    Oké lets see how good crowd trouble shooting is…

    Nobara on Fedora can not have the exact same mouse being plugged in multible times. They seem to merge into one and all but one will be ignored (at random).

    Okey, without joking*. I have seen quite some people who are unable to Google anything. But I guess that’s why LMGTFY was made.

    [*] this is actually a bug, not a joke. If you happen to know the answer. Please share it, it’s driving me nuts

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      Not nobara related but I found a Linux Mint thread about using xinput to adjust config to have left handed mode enabled for 1 mouse but not another. Maybe that will help. If they’re wireless mice with dongles, maybe they’re struggling in that one mouse is connecting to both receivers? If they offer both bt and wifi pairing you might be able to get around it by manipulating that, or if they can be plugged in that might help.

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          Now I’m curious. I have two of the same mice but my nobara blew up with the last update and need to reinstall it first. Can’t say I’ve ever tried that for Windows either

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    Windows and Mac have taught people to ignore safety error messages. We’re gonna be dealing with the fallout of that for generations.

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    Ngl, i love linux so much more and would never go back to windows but right now my audio jack doesn’t work for my new pc build.

    I’ve contacted the manufacturer of the motherboard, they say to try Windows

    I’ve posted on linux questions subreddit, nothing replied

    I’ve posted on EndeavourOS forums, got views, not replies.

    I’ve gone so into the weeds I’m trying to remap pins because I’m assuming the manufacturer relies on something Windows pre-configures so audio will play but it never makes it out of the port but it’s been weeks and I can’t solve it.

    Again, I’d never go back to windows but damn do I feel stranded rn.

    Motherboard: Minisforum BD790i X3D OS: endeavouros

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      Does your monitor have speakers, or a headphone jack? Interested to see if the sound works that way. And very silly question, have you tried a different wire/device in the audio jack or only the one?

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      From a quick search it seems that the mobo uses a Realtek audio chip, which is probably the actual problem. My current system build uses one and it barely worked under Windows, it’d randomly remap the channels, sometimes it just wouldn’t come up properly (Showed as only a microphone, etc.), had lots of static noise, would constantly think I was unplugging and replugging headphones in, etc. Just a terrible experience compared to the Intel audio system the build before this used.

      As much as “just buy another bit of hardware” is an awful bit of advice, I’d recommend getting a USB DAC/soundcard, I bought a cheap soundblaster one and it fixed all my problems. USB audio is a well-defined standardised protocol that’s supported by just about everything, does away with any driver issues or incompatibilities, can be moved between devices, etc. Mine’s a “gaming” model so it’s just a USB port on one side and a headset jack on the other, but you can also get ones with proper inbuilt amplifiers to run full speaker kits, etc.

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      What always has me seeing red is when I’m deep diving forums searching for anyone who has had my exact issue. Finding people with similar, but not exactly the same, issues with easy solutions that don’t work for me. Finally finding one forum post from 9 months ago, it is literally the exact same issue I’m dealing with. One reply. It’s OP a few days/weeks/months later replying to their own post only to say:

      Nevermind, I fixed it.

      But no solution, no response to commenting on the post or DMing…

      Makes me wanna slap a mfr…

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      Does it work on Windows?

      Because it could just as well be a shitty solder job

      Also next time never say you use Linux to a support tech. They will blame it all on linux, whether the pc is broken in half or covered in rat piss, it will always be you who broke it by using unsupported software.