Manufacturers are slowly starting to listen to what car journalists and owners have been complaining about for almost a decade: Cramming all the car’s functions into a touchscreen is an inferior solution to having dedicated physical controls for key tasks.

Among the manufacturers known to be switching back to buttons is Volkswagen, whose latest vehicles have gone touch-control-crazy with functions either buried inside a touchscreen menu or relocated to an annoying haptic feedback panel.

We’ve known for a while that Volkswagen was considering putting back some buttons in its cars, but the manufacturer never officially acknowledged this. Now VW’s design boss, Andreas Mindt, has admitted to Autocar that this approach was a mistake and that the automaker is backtracking on this trend.

“From the ID.2all onwards, we will have physical buttons for the five most important functions—the volume, the heating on each side of the car, the fans and the hazard light—below the screen,” Mindt told Autocar. He added, “They will be in every car that we make from now on. We will never, ever make this mistake anymore. On the steering wheel, we will have physical buttons. No guessing anymore. There’s feedback, it’s real, and people love this. Honestly, it’s a car. It’s not a phone.”

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    Touch screens in cars has always been a fuckin’ stupid idea, and I say that with the sincerest hope that nobody died because they had to look at the touchscreen to know where to tap to change the radio station because commercials came on

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      Someone has died due to a touchscreen. A woman had a Tesla which you put in park forwards or reverse with a touchscreen. She’d always had trouble with it and got it wrong and reversed into a pond. That meant the power went out so she couldn’t open that door. To get to the emergency escape handle you have to remove the speakers in the doors. So she drowned.

      The kicker? Her husband was a millionaire and he immediately put out a statement absolving Tesla and musk from any wrongdoing.

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    Finally saw a VW Buzz on the streets- I fell in love instantly. Not sure of the specs but I think she’s mighty pretty and it makes me want to load up my band and do a cross country trip with a fun montage sequence.

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    Nah you should make the steering wheel also a touchscreen, that would be smart. 🙃

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    This is incredible news because that means my future GTI will have buttons.

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      I just hope they’re smart enough not to put a 1200kg battery in it 🥹

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    Nothing to do with the euroNCAP guidance that came out earlier in the year, of course.

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      I have an 2021 Toyota and replaced the display with a Android head unit. Then added Bluetooth + USB buttons on my dash.

      Some features don’t work anymore like, but I can live with that.

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      Would be hilarious if they recalled them and superglued buttons over the touchscreen interface.

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        Isn’t that basically how the knob on the touchscreen of the Ford Mach-E works? I think it’s just glued on and simulates a touch like a stylus.

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      They are grat for things that benwfit from havibg flexible touch anywhere interaction like maps.

      They suck for anything you want to touch without looking away from the road, like temp controls.

      Honda still including buttons and knobs for climate controls was a huge factor for my last purchase. A few brands were instantly rejected because they had climate controls in the touch screen and I had already hated that experience from rentals and my in law’s cars.

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    It is not only safety - stupid screen is eating the battery for no reason.

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      The power consumption of a tablet is next to nothing compared to the power it takes to move an EV.

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      The screen consumes orders of magnitude less energy than what it takes to move the car. It’s not even worth taking into account.

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      There used to be a concern of lights draining a car battery preventing it from starting the ignition, but nowadays all the lights are LED so it’s many times more efficient.

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      Most of them, probably. It’s a new requirement in EU to get 5/5 stars safety rating.

      That’s also why it’s specifically 5 features - that’s the bare minimum.

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    I dare say that that part of the reason behind this decision is that they are also required to meet safety standards.

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      No it’s the only reason they are coming back, if they cared they wouldn’t have got ridden of the buttons in the first place

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      They have been publicly moving in this direction for a few years. They cynical play is they pushed the new safety standards because they are ready and want to cause their competition problems as they are forced to rush buttons back (who knows, but it wouldn’t surprise me)

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    Thank you!

    (Though, to be fair, I’m not sure how much they deserve to be thanked for undoing a change that should never have been made in the first place.)

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      Ehh, they were promised that full self driving was only a few years away. If that had been the case, touchscreens would be perfectly fine. But a decade of “only two more years, we swear” later, it’s time for the manufacturers to get back to work on AM instead of FM.

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          “They” is the car manufacturers. And yes, they were promised by Apartheid Willy Wonka.

          And they fell for it. Partly because this happened back in like, 2010, when tech still felt promising and fun and partly (mostly?) because they wanted to.

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        Wouldn’t it have been better for them to wait until cars were fully self-driving? I suspect they were just trend-chasing.

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        Touch screens still were not perfectly fine. At least not as they are implemented today. I have a medical condition that is eased by heated seats, I notice how long it take to get them on when I first sit down.